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You're the one turning it into a competition, in reality it is simply two separate companies doing different awesome things. Yes, obviously, going into orbit is

You're the one turning it into a competition, in reality it is simply two separate companies doing different awesome things. Yes, obviously, going into orbit is harder than not doing so. But going to space sub-orbitally is still very difficult and cool, and the only reason there's a negative spin on BO's achievements is because people feel the need to compare it with SpaceX as if there can be only one. Just be excited for the positive direction of spaceflight in general. Everyone benefits from both companies doing well, even if SpaceX is ahead of everyone else for awhile.

hoorayimhelping 11y ago
>Just be excited for the positive direction of spaceflight in general. How about don't tell people in the comments section of HN how to feel about a story posted here?
zepto 11y ago
Bezos is also turning it into a competition: https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/679116636310360067?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/6791166363103600...
molyss 11y ago
I wish I had the power to turn that into a competition, but I don't think they need me for that :) Jocking aside, I don't think there can only be one. I am comparing BO and SpaceX the same way I'd compare google and apple. In the same industry but not doing exactly the same thing. And when Apple tried to go on one of Google's turf with maps, they sucked. When Google tried to go do phones, at first they sucked. Comparison is natural and welcome. Here, it feels to me that BO is putting themselves up for comparison for no reason. As far as the positive direction of spaceflight, I think that transparency is key. Space exploration needs more accountability and trust that ever has been available before _in_any_industry_ever_. And there, so far SpaceX is winning hands down, including versus the old players (soyouz, ariane, ULA...). When SpaceX says "one of our struts was structurally deficient, broke down, made the rocket lose equilibrium and ultimately explode", they're also telling their competitors "Watch this. We've learned it the hard way.". Same with fog icing the leg lock. In the grand scheme of things they are making space safer, and not only for their customers. I only see bragging and borderline (note the "borderline") bullying on BO's side
bwilliams18 11y ago
BO is making it a competition by clearly trying to one up SpaceX with the timing of their marketing releases etc.

hoorayimhelping 11y ago

>Just be excited for the positive direction of spaceflight in general. How about don't tell people in the comments section of HN how to feel about a story posted here?

zepto 11y ago

Bezos is also turning it into a competition: https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/679116636310360067?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/6791166363103600...

molyss 11y ago

I wish I had the power to turn that into a competition, but I don't think they need me for that :) Jocking aside, I don't think there can only be one. I am comparing BO and SpaceX the same way I'd compare google and apple. In the same industry but not doing exactly the same thing. And when Apple tried to go on one of Google's turf with maps, they sucked. When Google tried to go do phones, at first they sucked. Comparison is natural and welcome. Here, it feels to me that BO is putting themselves up for comparison for no reason. As far as the positive direction of spaceflight, I think that transparency is key. Space exploration needs more accountability and trust that ever has been available before _in_any_industry_ever_. And there, so far SpaceX is winning hands down, including versus the old players (soyouz, ariane, ULA...). When SpaceX says "one of our struts was structurally deficient, broke down, made the rocket lose equilibrium and ultimately explode", they're also telling their competitors "Watch this. We've learned it the hard way.". Same with fog icing the leg lock. In the grand scheme of things they are making space safer, and not only for their customers. I only see bragging and borderline (note the "borderline") bullying on BO's side

bwilliams18 11y ago

BO is making it a competition by clearly trying to one up SpaceX with the timing of their marketing releases etc.