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Isn't the idea of "objectified" like, "being viewed as (like) an object"? My understanding is that the idea differs from simply "being viewed as attractive", (p

by drdeca 11y ago

Isn't the idea of "objectified" like, "being viewed as (like) an object"? My understanding is that the idea differs from simply "being viewed as attractive", (perhaps more like "being viewed as being an attractive one", with the difference being that the attractiveness is a larger part of the idea of them? I don't really know what I'm talking about. These are just guesses about what is often meant by "objectified". Something like, being viewed as a means towards an end? idk. I might be confusing multiple ideas.)

nickpsecurity 11y ago
It's a term a subset of women use and many use it differently. So, I can't be sure. Common threads include someone wanting to have sex with them, possess them as a wife/trophy, control what they due like property, and so on. I think she's thinking sex or dating. Anyway, one usually logically follows from the other: attractiveness or desirability increases odds of desire and an advance to be made. Most men are hardwired to want to try. Womens reaction seems to depend on upbringing and ideology. It might be acceptance, totally ignoring it, an eye roll that's neutral, mild irritation, or irritation/anger/hate worth blog posts. Down here the latter is rare. The women let people know what they tolerate then anyone pushing those boundaries too hard is clearly an asshole. Many will gripe about how men are on occasion but their gripes usually apply to their flings, boyfriends, and husbands. ;) Truth is, this position of anything resulting from attraction counts as an unwanted "advance" will be rejected by most men. That's because it means we either can never pursue great, smart women in our field. Or that a double standard exists where only they can initiate the process. Many of them were fine with such double standards that put their gender in control. I'm not. Nor would I want to date the types of women hitting clubs and such. All seems to me as selfish and controlling of social situations as the guys they describe. Too extreme, too, to be realistic. They counter a situation of selfish aggression with selfish passive-aggression then justify it by painting themselves as the victims of that interaction. Note: This all just applies to our tangent. Other behavior she describes show her to almost certainly be a victim of gender discrimination in those situations.
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by drdeca 11y ago

nickpsecurity 11y ago

It's a term a subset of women use and many use it differently. So, I can't be sure. Common threads include someone wanting to have sex with them, possess them as a wife/trophy, control what they due like property, and so on. I think she's thinking sex or dating. Anyway, one usually logically follows from the other: attractiveness or desirability increases odds of desire and an advance to be made. Most men are hardwired to want to try. Womens reaction seems to depend on upbringing and ideology. It might be acceptance, totally ignoring it, an eye roll that's neutral, mild irritation, or irritation/anger/hate worth blog posts. Down here the latter is rare. The women let people know what they tolerate then anyone pushing those boundaries too hard is clearly an asshole. Many will gripe about how men are on occasion but their gripes usually apply to their flings, boyfriends, and husbands. ;) Truth is, this position of anything resulting from attraction counts as an unwanted "advance" will be rejected by most men. That's because it means we either can never pursue great, smart women in our field. Or that a double standard exists where only they can initiate the process. Many of them were fine with such double standards that put their gender in control. I'm not. Nor would I want to date the types of women hitting clubs and such. All seems to me as selfish and controlling of social situations as the guys they describe. Too extreme, too, to be realistic. They counter a situation of selfish aggression with selfish passive-aggression then justify it by painting themselves as the victims of that interaction. Note: This all just applies to our tangent. Other behavior she describes show her to almost certainly be a victim of gender discrimination in those situations.

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