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> It seems like Linux is getting harder and harder to use without [systemd]... This Gentoo Linux user is getting along juuuuuust fine without systemd. :) Edit

> It seems like Linux is getting harder and harder to use without [systemd]... This Gentoo Linux user is getting along juuuuuust fine without systemd. :) Edit: To bring it on-topic: It's a damn shame that PA -apparently- doesn't let you set playback/record device preference lists that let you specify which of the potentially many sound devices in your system should be used when some or many of them are unavailable. It seems that KDE4 and -IIRC- 5 use Phonon to add this on top of PulseAudio. (Or, actually, they add this on top of whatever sound playback system you're using... whether it is JACK, ALSA, PA, or something else. I've never written software that interacts with Phonon, but -from an end-user perspective- it's pretty great.)

djsumdog 11y ago
Good to see another Gentoo user. I was avoiding PulseAudio on my desktop, but it's feels necessary on a laptop, especially if you use Bluetooth. I did have a lot of problems with distorted audio on Linux games, but "killall -9 pulseaudio" before starting a game (forcing it to respawn) usually fixes it.
- eeZi 11y ago
  Fortunately, Gentoo works fine with systemd, too. It's a nice feature of Gentoo that one can choose - ChromeOS uses Upstart and CoreOS systemd (both of them notable Gentoo derivates).
- keithpeter 11y ago
  Slackware -current now includes pulse audio because of a desire to upgrade Bluetooth packages. See the Jan 13th entry in the ChangeLog.txt http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386
- yrro 11y ago
  Please file a bug report.
  - makomk 11y ago
    I've been having the same problem with the same solution, but it didn't seem worth dealing with the hassle of reporting a bug for something I had no way of reliably reproducing knowing it'd most likely just get closed or ignored because of that.
- simoncion 11y ago
  > Good to see another Gentoo user. Hai! :D > I was avoiding PulseAudio on my desktop, but it's feels necessary on a laptop, especially if you use Bluetooth. You know, I was gonna say "But I had A2DP working JUST FINE with bluez-alsa, and JACK knows about anything that ALSA knows about!"... and then I started digging around and learned that bluez-alsa hasn't worked since BlueZ 4.x. :/ [0] Guess I have another project in my queue. :P Hope I can get it in-tree without too much hassle. [0] I guess that tells me how long it has been since I've paired a Bluetooth headset with my laptop! ;)
  - digi_owl 11y ago
    > Hope I can get it in-tree without too much hassle. Good luck, i can't say i have my hopes up.
    - simoncion 11y ago
      Oh, by in-tree, I mean "In the Gentoo Portage package tree.". Getting the work merged into Bluez proper would be nice, but I really don't care about that. :)

djsumdog 11y ago

Good to see another Gentoo user. I was avoiding PulseAudio on my desktop, but it's feels necessary on a laptop, especially if you use Bluetooth. I did have a lot of problems with distorted audio on Linux games, but "killall -9 pulseaudio" before starting a game (forcing it to respawn) usually fixes it.

eeZi 11y ago
Fortunately, Gentoo works fine with systemd, too. It's a nice feature of Gentoo that one can choose - ChromeOS uses Upstart and CoreOS systemd (both of them notable Gentoo derivates).
keithpeter 11y ago
Slackware -current now includes pulse audio because of a desire to upgrade Bluetooth packages. See the Jan 13th entry in the ChangeLog.txt http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386
yrro 11y ago
Please file a bug report.
- makomk 11y ago
  I've been having the same problem with the same solution, but it didn't seem worth dealing with the hassle of reporting a bug for something I had no way of reliably reproducing knowing it'd most likely just get closed or ignored because of that.
simoncion 11y ago
> Good to see another Gentoo user. Hai! :D > I was avoiding PulseAudio on my desktop, but it's feels necessary on a laptop, especially if you use Bluetooth. You know, I was gonna say "But I had A2DP working JUST FINE with bluez-alsa, and JACK knows about anything that ALSA knows about!"... and then I started digging around and learned that bluez-alsa hasn't worked since BlueZ 4.x. :/ [0] Guess I have another project in my queue. :P Hope I can get it in-tree without too much hassle. [0] I guess that tells me how long it has been since I've paired a Bluetooth headset with my laptop! ;)
- digi_owl 11y ago
  > Hope I can get it in-tree without too much hassle. Good luck, i can't say i have my hopes up.
  - simoncion 11y ago
    Oh, by in-tree, I mean "In the Gentoo Portage package tree.". Getting the work merged into Bluez proper would be nice, but I really don't care about that. :)