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>* The separation of different forms of content... Disagree. The NYTimes is at the forefront of dynamic content and page layouts. They inspired a couple of sta

by lotso 11y ago

>* The separation of different forms of content... Disagree. The NYTimes is at the forefront of dynamic content and page layouts. They inspired a couple of startups to build publishing tools after their Snowfall article was published http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2012/snow-fall/#/?part=tunnel-creek http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2012/snow-fall/#/?part=tunne... For more interactive articles, check out this http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/us/year-in-interactive-storytelling.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/us/year-in-interacti... >* The font in their title... Serif fonts aren't dated, and this is part of their branding and aesthetic. Of course a company founded in 1851 will not have the same aesthetics as a company founded in 2016. As a designer, I think their text and page layouts are some of the best I've seen. >* The discoverability of content... Unless you have access to their analytics, you aren't in a position to criticize their page layout. The problem with these armchair critiques is they are never argued with data.

hackuser 11y ago
> The NYTimes is at the forefront of dynamic content and page layouts Perhaps, but it's not implemented in production; that is, it's not implemented in the vast majority of their content. I know Snowfall was a big deal to some, but I'll bet most readers of the Times have no idea what it is. I've never heard it discussed outside news/tech insiders. Also, dynamic content and page layouts are not multimedia. >* The font in their title... Serif fonts aren't dated, and this is part of their branding and aesthetic. That font is dated, beyond a doubt. > a company founded in 1851 will not have the same aesthetics as a company founded in 2016 That's what I meant. They are tied to 1851 and say it loud and clear. Others do update their branding.
- lotso 11y ago
  >Also, dynamic content and page layouts are not multimedia. Maybe you didn't see it, but a lot of those articles have multimedia. >They are tied to 1851 and say it loud and clear. Others do update their branding. They have modernized it, but it still acknowledges their past, which is in line with their branding. I don't think anyone looks at their typeface and is turned off by it.
  - spyspy 11y ago
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/ recent updated their site layout. I wonder where they got that from.
  - hackuser 11y ago
    > I don't think anyone looks at their typeface and is turned off by it. Neither of us have any idea. Old newspapers are the only ones using that design, so I expect people will associate it with the old, fading industry.

by lotso 11y ago

hackuser 11y ago

> The NYTimes is at the forefront of dynamic content and page layouts Perhaps, but it's not implemented in production; that is, it's not implemented in the vast majority of their content. I know Snowfall was a big deal to some, but I'll bet most readers of the Times have no idea what it is. I've never heard it discussed outside news/tech insiders. Also, dynamic content and page layouts are not multimedia. >* The font in their title... Serif fonts aren't dated, and this is part of their branding and aesthetic. That font is dated, beyond a doubt. > a company founded in 1851 will not have the same aesthetics as a company founded in 2016 That's what I meant. They are tied to 1851 and say it loud and clear. Others do update their branding.

lotso 11y ago
>Also, dynamic content and page layouts are not multimedia. Maybe you didn't see it, but a lot of those articles have multimedia. >They are tied to 1851 and say it loud and clear. Others do update their branding. They have modernized it, but it still acknowledges their past, which is in line with their branding. I don't think anyone looks at their typeface and is turned off by it.
- spyspy 11y ago
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/ recent updated their site layout. I wonder where they got that from.
- hackuser 11y ago
  > I don't think anyone looks at their typeface and is turned off by it. Neither of us have any idea. Old newspapers are the only ones using that design, so I expect people will associate it with the old, fading industry.