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Think about how it works with other legal citations. "Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(b)(6)." means something to a lawyer and is irrespective of where they would physically

by extra88 11y ago

Think about how it works with other legal citations. "Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(b)(6)." means something to a lawyer and is irrespective of where they would physically find that court rule to read. An issue with Perma's id format is it doesn't contain anything to differentiate it from any other use of two sets of four uppercase letters or numbers separated by a dash, it's not "LAWCITE:A1C4-5F7H" it's just "A1C4-5F7H." The domain name could serve that purpose so wherever else Perma's content is stored, the route should contain perma.cc. So all of the following would have the same content, e.g.: http://perma.cc/48VC-ZS62 http://perma.cc/48VC-ZS62 http://archive.org/perma.cc/48VC-ZS62 http://archive.org/perma.cc/48VC-ZS62 http://doomsday.preppers/rebuilding-America/perma.cc/48VC-ZS62 http://doomsday.preppers/rebuilding-America/perma.cc/48VC-ZS... And in reference to the other comment, if the .cc TLD goes away for some reason, "perma.cc" could still remain a part of the URL even at the project's "home" site, e.g.: http://perma.law.harvard.edu/perma.cc/48VC-ZS62 http://perma.law.harvard.edu/perma.cc/48VC-ZS62 http://perma-cc.com/perma.cc/48VC-ZS62 http://perma-cc.com/perma.cc/48VC-ZS62 http://perma.mars/perma.cc/48VC-ZS62 http://perma.mars/perma.cc/48VC-ZS62

JackC 11y ago
> Think about how it works with other legal citations. "Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(b)(6)." means something to a lawyer and is irrespective of where they would physically find that court rule to read. Yeah! When I first started up with Perma I advocated a really aggressive shift in how we cite websites, using something that looks a lot more like other legal citations. Maybe something like: Example Title, perma.cc/T75S-NF5K (<original domain>, <capture date>). ... where "perma.cc/####" can be treated as a URL if you like, but also just as a legal cite like "### U.S. ###". This looks so much nicer in legal citations. There's lots of interesting variations along these lines. Buuuut that's basically a non-starter for most of the legal profession (including courts and law reviews) that just want their citations to make sense to readers today. For now the Bluebook is recommending a much more verbose vendor-neutral "(archived at <url>)" citation format (with Perma as an example!), and we're happy with that.

by extra88 11y ago

JackC 11y ago

> Think about how it works with other legal citations. "Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(b)(6)." means something to a lawyer and is irrespective of where they would physically find that court rule to read. Yeah! When I first started up with Perma I advocated a really aggressive shift in how we cite websites, using something that looks a lot more like other legal citations. Maybe something like: Example Title, perma.cc/T75S-NF5K (<original domain>, <capture date>). ... where "perma.cc/####" can be treated as a URL if you like, but also just as a legal cite like "### U.S. ###". This looks so much nicer in legal citations. There's lots of interesting variations along these lines. Buuuut that's basically a non-starter for most of the legal profession (including courts and law reviews) that just want their citations to make sense to readers today. For now the Bluebook is recommending a much more verbose vendor-neutral "(archived at <url>)" citation format (with Perma as an example!), and we're happy with that.