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Spain arrests and charges Mexican Governor with corruption

50 points by jagtesh 11y ago

jimrandomh 11y ago
This is dated Jan 21 (two days ago). Wikipedia adds (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberto_Moreira https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberto_Moreira), "On January 22, 2016 Moreira was granted restricted release on a bail." The allegations seem to center on a possible link between Moreira and the Los Zetas criminal organization (http://www.elespanol.com/espana/20160121/96240415_0.html http://www.elespanol.com/espana/20160121/96240415_0.html), which is known for its drug smuggling and its brutal human rights violations.
GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
Hopefully they'll have better luck with this guy then they did with Pinochet.
- alricb 11y ago
  It doesn't seem that the case is relying on the "universal jurisdiction" the Pinochet case was based on (trying the dictator in Spain for crimes committed in Chile, without Chile's consent), but on money laundering that happened in Spain itself.
qnnlu 11y ago
I hope that this and FifaGate are just the start of trend. Corruption is destroying many institutions especially developing countries governments. In these countries the law is permeated by the corrupt, so the only way to get justice is with help of the justice system of other countries.
outside1234 11y ago
Now, if Spain can only apply the same righteousness to their own politicians that they do to their former colonies... Here's probably the first arrest that should happen: http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21613309-jordi-pujols-confession-undermines-catalans-hopes-independence-scandal-catalonia http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21613309-jordi-pujols-c... But there is a long list of possibilities.
- 6t6t6 11y ago
  Yes, I totally agree that they should treat the politicians of the current colonies in the same way they treat those from the former ones.
- NetStrikeForce 11y ago
  You got me there for a second. I thought you would be talking about the current PM's undeclared payments, or how he removed financial aid for old and disabled people then made the country pay for his father's nurses; maybe about his party destroying evidence about undeclared payments likely to be bribes, the country's money spent on the pressure against Argentinian judges to not judge relevant figures from the Franco era or maybe about the sister of the current King stealing money from my fellow countrymen or even about Botín (now deceased Banco Santander's founder) and how we forgave him from declaring a couple of thousand million Euros. Can't see under which reasoning that's the first arrest - it has to happen, doesn't matter the order, but it strikes me as an odd choice without formal accusation. But anyway, it has been long since I've lost hope for a better Spain. We have what we deserve.
tomjen3 11y ago
I really don't like the implications of this. I hate corruption, but what is the next step? Going to prison in Saudi Arabia for being an open atheist in Denmark?
- Oletros 11y ago
  > Spanish prosecutors say that Mr. Moreira opened at least three bank accounts in Spain that received transfers of almost 200,000 euros, or $217,000, from two Mexican companies. Along with records of the transfers, the evidence against Mr. Moreira includes police wiretaps, according to court documents. No,he is not going to prison because his corruption in Mexico. He has been arrested for breaking the Spanish law in Spain
  - gozur88 11y ago
    Sure... in the same way Pinochet was arrested for crimes involving Spanish citizens.
    - Oletros 11y ago
      I was answering this > Going to prison in Saudi Arabia for being an open atheist in Denmark? So no, is not like going to prison in Saudi Arabia for being atheist in Denmark

50 points by jagtesh 11y ago

This is dated Jan 21 (two days ago). Wikipedia adds (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberto_Moreira https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberto_Moreira), "On January 22, 2016 Moreira was granted restricted release on a bail." The allegations seem to center on a possible link between Moreira and the Los Zetas criminal organization (http://www.elespanol.com/espana/20160121/96240415_0.html http://www.elespanol.com/espana/20160121/96240415_0.html), which is known for its drug smuggling and its brutal human rights violations.

GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago

Hopefully they'll have better luck with this guy then they did with Pinochet.

alricb 11y ago
It doesn't seem that the case is relying on the "universal jurisdiction" the Pinochet case was based on (trying the dictator in Spain for crimes committed in Chile, without Chile's consent), but on money laundering that happened in Spain itself.

qnnlu 11y ago

I hope that this and FifaGate are just the start of trend. Corruption is destroying many institutions especially developing countries governments. In these countries the law is permeated by the corrupt, so the only way to get justice is with help of the justice system of other countries.

outside1234 11y ago

Now, if Spain can only apply the same righteousness to their own politicians that they do to their former colonies... Here's probably the first arrest that should happen: http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21613309-jordi-pujols-confession-undermines-catalans-hopes-independence-scandal-catalonia http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21613309-jordi-pujols-c... But there is a long list of possibilities.

6t6t6 11y ago
Yes, I totally agree that they should treat the politicians of the current colonies in the same way they treat those from the former ones.
NetStrikeForce 11y ago
You got me there for a second. I thought you would be talking about the current PM's undeclared payments, or how he removed financial aid for old and disabled people then made the country pay for his father's nurses; maybe about his party destroying evidence about undeclared payments likely to be bribes, the country's money spent on the pressure against Argentinian judges to not judge relevant figures from the Franco era or maybe about the sister of the current King stealing money from my fellow countrymen or even about Botín (now deceased Banco Santander's founder) and how we forgave him from declaring a couple of thousand million Euros. Can't see under which reasoning that's the first arrest - it has to happen, doesn't matter the order, but it strikes me as an odd choice without formal accusation. But anyway, it has been long since I've lost hope for a better Spain. We have what we deserve.

tomjen3 11y ago

I really don't like the implications of this. I hate corruption, but what is the next step? Going to prison in Saudi Arabia for being an open atheist in Denmark?

Oletros 11y ago
> Spanish prosecutors say that Mr. Moreira opened at least three bank accounts in Spain that received transfers of almost 200,000 euros, or $217,000, from two Mexican companies. Along with records of the transfers, the evidence against Mr. Moreira includes police wiretaps, according to court documents. No,he is not going to prison because his corruption in Mexico. He has been arrested for breaking the Spanish law in Spain
- gozur88 11y ago
  Sure... in the same way Pinochet was arrested for crimes involving Spanish citizens.
  - Oletros 11y ago
    I was answering this > Going to prison in Saudi Arabia for being an open atheist in Denmark? So no, is not like going to prison in Saudi Arabia for being atheist in Denmark