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I didn't say that you won't get any users, just that you could have had roughly twice as many if you properly support all browsers. And this is all about busin

by mixmax 19y ago

I didn't say that you won't get any users, just that you could have had roughly twice as many if you properly support all browsers. And this is all about business, yes ?

akkartik 19y ago
That's as simplistic as arguing a startup should go for the largest market it can. Focus is worth a lot.
- mixmax 19y ago
  I think you got it backwards. Yes, absolutely focus is essential. But once you decide what to make you want as many customers as possible. And that obviously includes not turning away half of your customers at the door. Which is what you do if you don't support IE. Unless of course you have chosen a niche where 95% of your users use firefox. I have yet to see the stats for such a site.
  - akkartik 19y ago
    That's a good point. Thanks.
xirium 19y ago
When you're running a business, you have to succeed in all areas of activity from coding to marketing to admin and a whole lot of miscellaneous tasks. Do the 10% in each area which gets 90% of the result. Then backfill as appropriate. If you're developing an AJAX website then it is significantly easier to develop it using Firefox. Early adopters probably won't notice that it doesn't work on other browsers. Then fix the compatibility when you've got time. I'm astounded at the level of complexity facing contemporary web designers. I'm also appalled by the level of compatibility and stability between websites, browsers and plugins. 10 years ago, I could design a webpage and test on Netscape4. With no further testing, I knew how it would work or degrade on all browsers down to Lynx and Mosiac1.2. Many "designers" couldn't achieve that compatibility, even with a few iterations of feedback. That was just static HTML. Nowadays, you've got the added complexity of JavaScript1.5, CSS and smart web frameworks.

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I didn't say that you won't get any users, just that you could have had roughly twice as many if you properly support all browsers. And this is all about busin

by mixmax 19y ago

I didn't say that you won't get any users, just that you could have had roughly twice as many if you properly support all browsers. And this is all about business, yes ?

akkartik 19y ago
That's as simplistic as arguing a startup should go for the largest market it can. Focus is worth a lot.
- mixmax 19y ago
  I think you got it backwards. Yes, absolutely focus is essential. But once you decide what to make you want as many customers as possible. And that obviously includes not turning away half of your customers at the door. Which is what you do if you don't support IE. Unless of course you have chosen a niche where 95% of your users use firefox. I have yet to see the stats for such a site.
  - akkartik 19y ago
    That's a good point. Thanks.
xirium 19y ago
When you're running a business, you have to succeed in all areas of activity from coding to marketing to admin and a whole lot of miscellaneous tasks. Do the 10% in each area which gets 90% of the result. Then backfill as appropriate. If you're developing an AJAX website then it is significantly easier to develop it using Firefox. Early adopters probably won't notice that it doesn't work on other browsers. Then fix the compatibility when you've got time. I'm astounded at the level of complexity facing contemporary web designers. I'm also appalled by the level of compatibility and stability between websites, browsers and plugins. 10 years ago, I could design a webpage and test on Netscape4. With no further testing, I knew how it would work or degrade on all browsers down to Lynx and Mosiac1.2. Many "designers" couldn't achieve that compatibility, even with a few iterations of feedback. That was just static HTML. Nowadays, you've got the added complexity of JavaScript1.5, CSS and smart web frameworks.