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There's nothing in the article to say that the residents were arrested. An arrest is the threshold for controlling someone's legitimate actions: if the police d

by manarth 11y ago

There's nothing in the article to say that the residents were arrested. An arrest is the threshold for controlling someone's legitimate actions: if the police don't have enough evidence to arrest the person, then they shouldn't be limiting their movements. That is the whole point of arrest (and the related burden of proof required to make an arrest). To restrict someone's actions without legal authority - such as arresting them - is illegal.

refurb 11y ago
An arrest is the threshold for controlling someone's legitimate actions No it's not. You can be legally detained. For example, if a cop stops you for speeding, he won't arrest you, but you will be detained until he gets the information he needs and gives you a ticket. That's why you're supposed to ask "Am I free to go?". If you are legally detained, the answer is "no".
- manarth 11y ago
  That's a good point, thanks. I ended up having a look through the differences between detention and arrest (finding different thresholds, e.g. "reasonable suspicion" vs "probable cause"[1], and that "20 minutes or so is a reasonable timeframe for detaining someone" [2]). [1] http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arrest-vs-detention-how-tell-whether-you-ve-been-arrested-simply-detained.html http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arrest-vs-detention-h... [2] http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/arrests_and_searches/arrest-detention.htm http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/arrests_and_...
anikamariam 11y ago
Holy shit civics education is pretty bleak in high school these days huh? everyone commenting on this is so ignorant you all must be teenagers the cops dont have to arrest you to control you. They can detain you whenever they want and barely need any reason at all. A hunch is sufficient to detain you for pretty much as long as they want if their hunch continues. fuckin privileged teenagers
- dang 11y ago
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by manarth 11y ago

refurb 11y ago

An arrest is the threshold for controlling someone's legitimate actions No it's not. You can be legally detained. For example, if a cop stops you for speeding, he won't arrest you, but you will be detained until he gets the information he needs and gives you a ticket. That's why you're supposed to ask "Am I free to go?". If you are legally detained, the answer is "no".

manarth 11y ago
That's a good point, thanks. I ended up having a look through the differences between detention and arrest (finding different thresholds, e.g. "reasonable suspicion" vs "probable cause"[1], and that "20 minutes or so is a reasonable timeframe for detaining someone" [2]). [1] http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arrest-vs-detention-how-tell-whether-you-ve-been-arrested-simply-detained.html http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arrest-vs-detention-h... [2] http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/arrests_and_searches/arrest-detention.htm http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/arrests_and_...

anikamariam 11y ago

Holy shit civics education is pretty bleak in high school these days huh? everyone commenting on this is so ignorant you all must be teenagers the cops dont have to arrest you to control you. They can detain you whenever they want and barely need any reason at all. A hunch is sufficient to detain you for pretty much as long as they want if their hunch continues. fuckin privileged teenagers

dang 11y ago
We've banned this account for violating the HN guidelines.