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> 1. create "hygiene trucks" - they are semi trailers that are mobile that would provide showers, bathrooms, 'scrubs' style basic clothing. How is this better

by dpark 11y ago

> 1. create "hygiene trucks" - they are semi trailers that are mobile that would provide showers, bathrooms, 'scrubs' style basic clothing. How is this better than a permanent facility? It's got to be way more expensive to build this into a truck. > 2. container based micro housing, divide the containers into ~3 rooms. Containers are not an affordable way to build housing. Shipping containers converted into housing is a fetish for rich people with architects. > FOCUS ON MENTAL HEALTH Yep. Mental health problems are highly correlated with homelessness. Everything from depression to schizophrenia to substance abuse. Often multiple issues combined. > NO PETS. This eliminates a huge number of homeless. Many homeless desperately cling to their pets because they have no one else.

placeybordeaux 11y ago
You might get beyond not in my backyard with a truck.
- dpark 11y ago
  Maybe, but if you can build container housing in someone's backyard, I'm pretty sure you can get a washroom in there, too.
  - barsonme 11y ago
    I think the previous poster was referring to NIMBYs[1] (people who oppose something because of its proximity to them, even if it's a necessity). A fair amount of people wouldn't want a homeless shelter or washroom next to their house, but a mobile truck could have the same benefit while placating the NIMBYs. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY
    - dpark 11y ago
      I understand that. Item 2 on the list was container-based micro housing units, though, which are going to have to be built/installed somewhere. If you can get the permits and land to install micro housing units, you can most certainly get permits to install shower and was facilities. In fact you are required to do so. You cannot housing housing without plumbing.
cbhl 11y ago
It's super expensive -- IIRC, Lava Mae was quoting $1 million to convert one bus into a bathroom and run it for a year. That said, getting approvals in SF to build a permanent facility is non-trivial and expensive in its own right, and it would only serve homeless in the immediate area (one of the features of Lava Mae's approach is that they put the truck in different parts of the city on different days of the week).

by dpark 11y ago

placeybordeaux 11y ago

You might get beyond not in my backyard with a truck.

dpark 11y ago
Maybe, but if you can build container housing in someone's backyard, I'm pretty sure you can get a washroom in there, too.
- barsonme 11y ago
  I think the previous poster was referring to NIMBYs[1] (people who oppose something because of its proximity to them, even if it's a necessity). A fair amount of people wouldn't want a homeless shelter or washroom next to their house, but a mobile truck could have the same benefit while placating the NIMBYs. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY
  - dpark 11y ago
    I understand that. Item 2 on the list was container-based micro housing units, though, which are going to have to be built/installed somewhere. If you can get the permits and land to install micro housing units, you can most certainly get permits to install shower and was facilities. In fact you are required to do so. You cannot housing housing without plumbing.

cbhl 11y ago

It's super expensive -- IIRC, Lava Mae was quoting $1 million to convert one bus into a bathroom and run it for a year. That said, getting approvals in SF to build a permanent facility is non-trivial and expensive in its own right, and it would only serve homeless in the immediate area (one of the features of Lava Mae's approach is that they put the truck in different parts of the city on different days of the week).