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> Most humans have to avoid dairy; many must avoid wheat. Find out if you’re one of them. And how do I find out if I have to avoid dairy or wheat ? Last year I

> Most humans have to avoid dairy; many must avoid wheat. Find out if you’re one of them. And how do I find out if I have to avoid dairy or wheat ? Last year I stopped eating them for a couple of months but didn't see a notable difference in my general well being.

locacorten 11y ago
I think you found out. You're one of the lucky ones.
nkrisc 11y ago
If you noticed no difference, that seems like a good sign it might be alright for you. That said, based on people I know, those who should not be eating dairy or wheat get various levels of intestinal distress if they do; it's pretty obvious. But most importantly, consult a doctor or other medical professional if you need more information.
- stinos 11y ago
  it's pretty obvious this is what I don't get: author says most should avoid dairy, you (and others) say it's easy to recognize problems with eating it. Yet the vast majority of all people I know have no problems with dairy whatsoever. So is the author wrong, does he mean something else, do I live with people who can't recognize problems originating from dairy use or do I live with a special subgroup of people who all happen to have no problem with dairy?
  - nothrabannosir 11y ago
    It took me 26 years to realize dairy was the problem. It's hard to see the cloud from within.
  - scott_s 11y ago
    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance, "The frequency of lactose intolerance ranges from 5% in Northern European to more than 90% in some African and Asian countries." It seems to depend on the region of the world your ancestors are from. Those cultures which used milk as a food source for adults tend to have lower incidences of lactose intolerance.
  - fluxion 11y ago
    Approximately 65% of the worlds population suffers from a diminished ability to digest dairy after childhood, see http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-intolerance http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-intolerance. That said lactose intolerance usually doesn't occur in people of European descent so I would imagine you happen to live in s special subgroup who has no such problem.
  - apendleton 11y ago
    For dairy in particular, it's the last one. Globally, lactose persistence (the opposite of lactose intolerance) is a minority trait that appears to have arisen in populations that raised domesticated cattle, but not elsewhere. Most African and southeast Asian adults, for example, are lactose intolerant. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence
    - nkrisc 11y ago
      I just wanted to point out that African and Asian adults would certainly constitute "most" people, based on population. As I understand it, populations that can consume dairy tend to be centered on Northern Europe, a very small fraction of the global population. I'll only speak for myself, but I was first thrown off by the "most" part as well, until I realized I had a pretty Euro-centric view of it. "Most people I know have no problem with dairy," I thought to myself. Then I remembered most people I know have European ancestry.
    - mfoy_ 11y ago
      Not to nitpick, but it's "lactase" persistence. Lactase is the enzyme which breaks down lactose. People without lactase in their gut cannot digest lactose, hence "lactose intolerance" in those without "lactase persistence".
  - lfowles 11y ago
    It's pretty obvious when you connect the dots, but lactose intolerance (like many things) is a spectrum. Personally, milk with my cereal occasionally is fine, but I have a pretty bad night if I mow down a full bowl of ice cream (or as I am wont to do yearly, several glasses of egg nog).
itp 11y ago
Lactose intolerance is typically pretty easy to determine -- most people who are lactose intolerant will quickly notice when they suffer from gas, bloating, diarrhea etc. shortly after consuming dairy foods. Wheat is a bit more complicated since there different potential issues that present differently. There's a good overview of celiac vs. gluten sensitivity vs. wheat allergy at http://gastro.ucla.edu/site.cfm?id=281 http://gastro.ucla.edu/site.cfm?id=281 if you're interested. Sounds like you're in the clear, though.
criddell 11y ago
So you are probably fine eating them. I think the most genius part of the paleo diet movement was the naming of it.
adamqureshi 11y ago
The problem is simple carbs and addiction to sugar. Try ween of simple carbs and excess sugar. Veggies and meat / fish. Takes about 6 months to get off and get used not eating or very little amounts of simple carbs and little sugar. Also try intermitting fasting. Works for me. I feel great and workout / cross fit daily with my first meal around 2pm and last meal around 7-8pm
- pc86 11y ago
  Your answer to "how do I find out if I have to avoid dairy or wheat?" is to ween off of simple carbs and sugar?
  - goodJobWalrus 11y ago
    and do cross-fit!
  - adamqureshi 11y ago
    lol. Crap i went off on a tangent! Answer to your question: I honestly don't know, but i suppose testing would be your best bet. Yeah and try crossfit, or calisthenics!

locacorten 11y ago

I think you found out. You're one of the lucky ones.

nkrisc 11y ago

If you noticed no difference, that seems like a good sign it might be alright for you. That said, based on people I know, those who should not be eating dairy or wheat get various levels of intestinal distress if they do; it's pretty obvious. But most importantly, consult a doctor or other medical professional if you need more information.

stinos 11y ago
it's pretty obvious this is what I don't get: author says most should avoid dairy, you (and others) say it's easy to recognize problems with eating it. Yet the vast majority of all people I know have no problems with dairy whatsoever. So is the author wrong, does he mean something else, do I live with people who can't recognize problems originating from dairy use or do I live with a special subgroup of people who all happen to have no problem with dairy?
- nothrabannosir 11y ago
  It took me 26 years to realize dairy was the problem. It's hard to see the cloud from within.
- scott_s 11y ago
  From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance, "The frequency of lactose intolerance ranges from 5% in Northern European to more than 90% in some African and Asian countries." It seems to depend on the region of the world your ancestors are from. Those cultures which used milk as a food source for adults tend to have lower incidences of lactose intolerance.
- fluxion 11y ago
  Approximately 65% of the worlds population suffers from a diminished ability to digest dairy after childhood, see http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-intolerance http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/lactose-intolerance. That said lactose intolerance usually doesn't occur in people of European descent so I would imagine you happen to live in s special subgroup who has no such problem.
- apendleton 11y ago
  For dairy in particular, it's the last one. Globally, lactose persistence (the opposite of lactose intolerance) is a minority trait that appears to have arisen in populations that raised domesticated cattle, but not elsewhere. Most African and southeast Asian adults, for example, are lactose intolerant. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence
  - nkrisc 11y ago
    I just wanted to point out that African and Asian adults would certainly constitute "most" people, based on population. As I understand it, populations that can consume dairy tend to be centered on Northern Europe, a very small fraction of the global population. I'll only speak for myself, but I was first thrown off by the "most" part as well, until I realized I had a pretty Euro-centric view of it. "Most people I know have no problem with dairy," I thought to myself. Then I remembered most people I know have European ancestry.
  - mfoy_ 11y ago
    Not to nitpick, but it's "lactase" persistence. Lactase is the enzyme which breaks down lactose. People without lactase in their gut cannot digest lactose, hence "lactose intolerance" in those without "lactase persistence".
- lfowles 11y ago
  It's pretty obvious when you connect the dots, but lactose intolerance (like many things) is a spectrum. Personally, milk with my cereal occasionally is fine, but I have a pretty bad night if I mow down a full bowl of ice cream (or as I am wont to do yearly, several glasses of egg nog).

itp 11y ago

Lactose intolerance is typically pretty easy to determine -- most people who are lactose intolerant will quickly notice when they suffer from gas, bloating, diarrhea etc. shortly after consuming dairy foods. Wheat is a bit more complicated since there different potential issues that present differently. There's a good overview of celiac vs. gluten sensitivity vs. wheat allergy at http://gastro.ucla.edu/site.cfm?id=281 http://gastro.ucla.edu/site.cfm?id=281 if you're interested. Sounds like you're in the clear, though.

criddell 11y ago

So you are probably fine eating them. I think the most genius part of the paleo diet movement was the naming of it.

adamqureshi 11y ago

The problem is simple carbs and addiction to sugar. Try ween of simple carbs and excess sugar. Veggies and meat / fish. Takes about 6 months to get off and get used not eating or very little amounts of simple carbs and little sugar. Also try intermitting fasting. Works for me. I feel great and workout / cross fit daily with my first meal around 2pm and last meal around 7-8pm

pc86 11y ago
Your answer to "how do I find out if I have to avoid dairy or wheat?" is to ween off of simple carbs and sugar?
- goodJobWalrus 11y ago
  and do cross-fit!
- adamqureshi 11y ago
  lol. Crap i went off on a tangent! Answer to your question: I honestly don't know, but i suppose testing would be your best bet. Yeah and try crossfit, or calisthenics!