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This is getting serious here in southern Mexico, we just had a chikungunya outbreak a year ago and now this. These situations remind me of a talk given at Oscon

This is getting serious here in southern Mexico, we just had a chikungunya outbreak a year ago and now this. These situations remind me of a talk given at Oscon Data by Steve Yegge about working on the things that matter[0]. Virus are complex and modelling molecular biology requires CS expertise, it's kind of sad that we're normally discussing the new JS frameworks instead of working on the hard(and important)problems. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKmQW_Nkfk8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKmQW_Nkfk8

moonchrome 11y ago
>it's kind of sad that we're normally discussing the new JS frameworks instead of working on the hard(and important)problems. What gives you the impression that people contributing to JS frameworks have the potential to meaningfully contribute to "hard problems" in molecular biology ?
- vemv 11y ago
  On the micro level, you're right. On the macro level, the new generations of smart talented folks are choosing CS over other career choices.
  - moonchrome 11y ago
    >the new generations of smart talented folks are choosing CS over other career choices Umm... he is arguing that CS is exactly what people should be focusing because CS (ML/data processing, etc.) applied to existing fields and data could lead to new insights - so more smart people going to CS is a good thing (at least according to Yegge). My point is that CS has practically nothing to do with writing JS frameworks and frankly I doubt that most people doing JS development are the kind of people that could make significant contributions to CS or mentioned sciences - maybe a fraction of the top % - but JS is a low barrier to entry, easy to get simple things done, sufficient to solve real world problems like automating CRUD TPS reports - because someone needs to do that as well. I've had the misfortune of working with that platform - JS is by far the lowest quality ecosystem I've seen* (I never really got into PHP so I can't compare). IMO Yegge makes a stronger point suggesting that data science people are being driven to "catbook" projects instead of "important stuff" - but those people are not your everyday JS developers.
    - betolink 11y ago
      Correct, not everybody can do significant contributions to say molecular biology. My point is that we need more smart people working on the problems that matter and right now we have a lot of smart people working on http://(buzzwords).io http://(buzzwords).io
meagain20000 11y ago
How southern? Which state is this happening in? Chiapas?
- betolink 11y ago
  Yes, I live in Chiapas and we have confirmed cases already.

moonchrome 11y ago

>it's kind of sad that we're normally discussing the new JS frameworks instead of working on the hard(and important)problems. What gives you the impression that people contributing to JS frameworks have the potential to meaningfully contribute to "hard problems" in molecular biology ?

vemv 11y ago
On the micro level, you're right. On the macro level, the new generations of smart talented folks are choosing CS over other career choices.
- moonchrome 11y ago
  >the new generations of smart talented folks are choosing CS over other career choices Umm... he is arguing that CS is exactly what people should be focusing because CS (ML/data processing, etc.) applied to existing fields and data could lead to new insights - so more smart people going to CS is a good thing (at least according to Yegge). My point is that CS has practically nothing to do with writing JS frameworks and frankly I doubt that most people doing JS development are the kind of people that could make significant contributions to CS or mentioned sciences - maybe a fraction of the top % - but JS is a low barrier to entry, easy to get simple things done, sufficient to solve real world problems like automating CRUD TPS reports - because someone needs to do that as well. I've had the misfortune of working with that platform - JS is by far the lowest quality ecosystem I've seen* (I never really got into PHP so I can't compare). IMO Yegge makes a stronger point suggesting that data science people are being driven to "catbook" projects instead of "important stuff" - but those people are not your everyday JS developers.
  - betolink 11y ago
    Correct, not everybody can do significant contributions to say molecular biology. My point is that we need more smart people working on the problems that matter and right now we have a lot of smart people working on http://(buzzwords).io http://(buzzwords).io

meagain20000 11y ago

How southern? Which state is this happening in? Chiapas?

betolink 11y ago
Yes, I live in Chiapas and we have confirmed cases already.