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The first study confounds the issues of race and class. Emily is not the white equivalent to Lakisha, Brandi is.
by ebfe 11y ago
The first study confounds the issues of race and class. Emily is not the white equivalent to Lakisha, Brandi is.
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- pmorici 11y agoThe op said that Brandi was a name for low class white people I think you misunderstood what he said.
- dingbat 11y agofurther complicated by the tendency towards aspirational naming, as over time formerly upscale names like Emily / Alexandra / Madison etc become associated with low-end socioeconomics due to overexposure. however, you'd have to be willfully ignorant to deny the perceptual gap between high-end/low-end Emily/Amber vs. Lakisha
- kenjackson 11y agoSo what is a "high-end" black name?
- gohrt 11y agoThe richest black Americans are named: Oprah, Michael, Tiger, Sean, Robert, Mariah, Earvin, Jay, Bill, Sheila, Tyler, Shaquille, Dr, Master, Berry, Russell, Quintin, Beyonce, Prince. The richest Americans are named: Bill, Warren, Larry, Jeff, Charles, David, Mark, Michael, Jim, Larry, Sergey (immigrant, didn't change name), Alice (inherited), S. Robson (inherited) Christy (inherited), Sheldon, George, Phil, Forrest, Jacqueline, John, Steve, Carl. Bill and Michael are on both those lists, but you would not say they are "black" names. The thing is, there aren't a large group of upper class black people with different names from upper class white people, so you don't have an image in your mind of high-end black names. The rich and famous black people you know have either normal "white" names or very rare names (Beyonce, Prince, Tiger). High-end names default to looking white, since white is "normal" in USA.
- drstrangevibes 11y agoso you take the outliers as some indication of the median?
- uncletaco 11y agoBy Dr. do you mean Andre and by Master do you mean Percy?
- Grishnakh 11y agoDon't forget also that for many of those black names, those people are celebrities and sports stars: they don't have to worry about getting a job interview at some soulless corporation. Beyonce, Oprah, Shaquille, etc. made their millions in the entertainment business and likely never had to deal with that. However, someone sending in a resume with the name "Shaquille" for a programming job isn't going to get a pass just because he shares a name with a basketball legend; he'll be subject to whatever bias about black people the resume screener has.
- clarkm 11y agoReginald?
- dingbat 11y agoim not sure if youre joking but in my experience this is pretty accurate.
- dingbat 11y agoit may have been misunderstood: when I am referring to "high-end/low-end" I am referring to Emily as high-end, Amber as low-end --- not Lakisha. I do not know what the equivalent comparison would be using the example of Lakisha, whether or not that is considered upscale or not.
- sangnoir 11y ago> So what is a "high-end" black name? The unfortunate implication of parent's statement is that there are no "high-end" black names, and therefore all 'black' names are low-end. Fuck, this is depressing.