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Right, similarly you should object any time someone uses a motor vehicle in your presence. God forbid someone drives a truck and you're within 10 feet. You didn

by wfo 11y ago

Right, similarly you should object any time someone uses a motor vehicle in your presence. God forbid someone drives a truck and you're within 10 feet. You didn't consent to breathe in those fumes, they shouldn't have the right to spread them around anywhere, even in designated driving areas like roads -- they are near sidewalks, after all.

Ao7bei3s 11y ago
One is far, far stronger than the other. One is also usually being done in badly ventilated areas.
- wfo 11y ago
  Yes, one is far stronger than the other -- one is not only polluting the air you are breathing in at the moment but also destroying the environment and leading to global catastrophe and the other is an annoyance when you walk down the street and god forbid a poor person is in your way. I'll give you the point about smoking indoors, I didn't even consider it because at least in the US I haven't seen a place where that's even allowed anymore in the last, 10 years?
  - Ao7bei3s 11y ago
    > one is ... destroying the environment and the other is an annoyance Cars are also much more useful than smoking. (Compare what'd happen if cars were banned with what'd happen if smoking was banned.) But of course you're right, cars are a problem. At least there are emission limits, and electric cars are being worked on. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get rid of smoking. These are separate problems, they can be worked on in parallel.
Lawtonfogle 11y ago
Note that we do have limits on what a motor vehicle can output, those limits are being tightened, and the recent company scandal where a certain company lied about those limits should be punished. Smog is a major issue in some cities and should be dealt with and greater emphasis should be put on electric vehicles.
- psykovsky 11y ago
  We also have limits on cigarettes emissions, you know?
GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
I'm perfectly ok with the feds tightening emissions controls, and severely cracking down on those 'rolling coal' jackasses.

by wfo 11y ago

Ao7bei3s 11y ago

One is far, far stronger than the other. One is also usually being done in badly ventilated areas.

wfo 11y ago
Yes, one is far stronger than the other -- one is not only polluting the air you are breathing in at the moment but also destroying the environment and leading to global catastrophe and the other is an annoyance when you walk down the street and god forbid a poor person is in your way. I'll give you the point about smoking indoors, I didn't even consider it because at least in the US I haven't seen a place where that's even allowed anymore in the last, 10 years?
- Ao7bei3s 11y ago
  > one is ... destroying the environment and the other is an annoyance Cars are also much more useful than smoking. (Compare what'd happen if cars were banned with what'd happen if smoking was banned.) But of course you're right, cars are a problem. At least there are emission limits, and electric cars are being worked on. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get rid of smoking. These are separate problems, they can be worked on in parallel.

Lawtonfogle 11y ago

Note that we do have limits on what a motor vehicle can output, those limits are being tightened, and the recent company scandal where a certain company lied about those limits should be punished. Smog is a major issue in some cities and should be dealt with and greater emphasis should be put on electric vehicles.

psykovsky 11y ago
We also have limits on cigarettes emissions, you know?

GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago

I'm perfectly ok with the feds tightening emissions controls, and severely cracking down on those 'rolling coal' jackasses.