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The hero is a white woman - Finn is a bumbling sidekick.

by wooger 11y ago

xyzzy4 11y ago
I agree. Finn is like the new Jar Jar
- gknoy 11y ago
  Finn is nothing like Jar Jar. Finn made me smile and root for him every time I saw him on screen. He was awkward at times (hey, not much social interaction since he was a ST from early childhood), but his heart was always in the right place. I smile when I think of his character, and look forward to seeing him in the next part of the story, EVEN if he's not a Jedi. Jar-Jar makes me cringe when I hear him or look at him move. (That's saying a lot considering how bad the writing was for Anakin, IMO.) Jar Jar's purpose seemed to be the Comic Relief, whereas Finn has a much bigger and better-integrated role.
  - xyzzy4 11y ago
    I disagree. https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-character-Finn-Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens-featured-as-incompetent-in-some-clips https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-character-Finn-Star-Wars-Th...
falcolas 11y ago
I'd say that Finn is the heart of the movie. He ends up doing the right things because he cares, not because of a destiny (Rei) or sense of obligation (Han).
stuxnet79 11y ago
Who also works in "sanitation" I am still incensed by this. The marketing of the movie totally misrepresented what Finn's role would be. I thought he would be the lead jedi. I doubt I will watch any of the forthcoming Star Wars movies.
- cballard 11y ago
  That was, like, the point, though. I thought it was great when Finn turned out to be mostly useless at Jedi-ing and Rey was actually the main character, because I didn't see it coming after all of the trailers and ads. A bigger twist than, you know, the other one.
  - sotojuan 11y ago
    I was going to disagree but you are right. I only watched some trailers and I thought Finn would be the main character. He even wields a lightsaber in the official poster, despite the fact that he received no training nor he had the Force and only used it because he had nothing else to use and his life depended on it. I doubt he'll use it in the rest of the series—seems like he'll join Poe Dameron.
- gohrt 11y ago
  "worked", past tense, on Starkiller Base, before he became a storm trooper.
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vanattab 11y ago
What about finn's character is bumbling?
- stuxnet79 11y ago
  Rather than list attributes consistent with "bumbling" it would be better if you compared Finn to other prominent black characters in Star Wars: Mace Windu? Master of the Jedi high council. Lando Calrissian? Permed out badass who is in charge of Cloud City Vader? The original voice actor was black but does anything else need to be said? Can Finn really compare to any of these? Is he a hero I can personally identify with? No way.
  - PaulHoule 11y ago
    I can identify with a stormtrooper who breaks loose from his oppression and join the other side. The girl has a royal destiny, but Finn is actually working his way up in the world and he's bumbling because he is stretching his limits. (I get tired of so many stores where the lead characters have some "special" family origin that is so clear to their situations and this erases any discussion of what is it you have to do to become "special" as a member of the mass.) I so much identify with that guy, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDM6v1XhWEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDM6v1XhWEg
  - sotojuan 11y ago
    That's a very interesting perspective. Personally I thought Finn was the most "normal" character in that film (meaning the one most like us). He's just a child soldier that not only found a way out of it but he worked his way to the rebellion, with no "destiny" or the Force. IMO he doesn't have to be rich like Lando or powerful like Windu. He just has to be cool and portrayed positively, and I think he is. If he was like Jar Jar then yes, I'd complain. Either way, we went from tech diversity to Star Wars, so maybe we should stop here :-)
  - gohrt 11y ago
    > Is he a hero I can personally identify with? > Mace Windu > Vader Mace Windu was a completely bogus effort to put Samuel L Jackson in front of Black ticket-buyers. It wasn't even a good role for the incredible (but range-limited) performer Jackson is.
walshemj 11y ago
No He's the young inexperienced hero starting out just like Luke was.

The hero is a white woman - Finn is a bumbling sidekick.

by wooger 11y ago

The hero is a white woman - Finn is a bumbling sidekick.

xyzzy4 11y ago

I agree. Finn is like the new Jar Jar

gknoy 11y ago
Finn is nothing like Jar Jar. Finn made me smile and root for him every time I saw him on screen. He was awkward at times (hey, not much social interaction since he was a ST from early childhood), but his heart was always in the right place. I smile when I think of his character, and look forward to seeing him in the next part of the story, EVEN if he's not a Jedi. Jar-Jar makes me cringe when I hear him or look at him move. (That's saying a lot considering how bad the writing was for Anakin, IMO.) Jar Jar's purpose seemed to be the Comic Relief, whereas Finn has a much bigger and better-integrated role.
- xyzzy4 11y ago
  I disagree. https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-character-Finn-Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens-featured-as-incompetent-in-some-clips https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-character-Finn-Star-Wars-Th...

falcolas 11y ago

I'd say that Finn is the heart of the movie. He ends up doing the right things because he cares, not because of a destiny (Rei) or sense of obligation (Han).

stuxnet79 11y ago

Who also works in "sanitation" I am still incensed by this. The marketing of the movie totally misrepresented what Finn's role would be. I thought he would be the lead jedi. I doubt I will watch any of the forthcoming Star Wars movies.

cballard 11y ago
That was, like, the point, though. I thought it was great when Finn turned out to be mostly useless at Jedi-ing and Rey was actually the main character, because I didn't see it coming after all of the trailers and ads. A bigger twist than, you know, the other one.
- sotojuan 11y ago
  I was going to disagree but you are right. I only watched some trailers and I thought Finn would be the main character. He even wields a lightsaber in the official poster, despite the fact that he received no training nor he had the Force and only used it because he had nothing else to use and his life depended on it. I doubt he'll use it in the rest of the series—seems like he'll join Poe Dameron.
gohrt 11y ago
"worked", past tense, on Starkiller Base, before he became a storm trooper.

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vanattab 11y ago

What about finn's character is bumbling?

stuxnet79 11y ago
Rather than list attributes consistent with "bumbling" it would be better if you compared Finn to other prominent black characters in Star Wars: Mace Windu? Master of the Jedi high council. Lando Calrissian? Permed out badass who is in charge of Cloud City Vader? The original voice actor was black but does anything else need to be said? Can Finn really compare to any of these? Is he a hero I can personally identify with? No way.
- PaulHoule 11y ago
  I can identify with a stormtrooper who breaks loose from his oppression and join the other side. The girl has a royal destiny, but Finn is actually working his way up in the world and he's bumbling because he is stretching his limits. (I get tired of so many stores where the lead characters have some "special" family origin that is so clear to their situations and this erases any discussion of what is it you have to do to become "special" as a member of the mass.) I so much identify with that guy, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDM6v1XhWEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDM6v1XhWEg
- sotojuan 11y ago
  That's a very interesting perspective. Personally I thought Finn was the most "normal" character in that film (meaning the one most like us). He's just a child soldier that not only found a way out of it but he worked his way to the rebellion, with no "destiny" or the Force. IMO he doesn't have to be rich like Lando or powerful like Windu. He just has to be cool and portrayed positively, and I think he is. If he was like Jar Jar then yes, I'd complain. Either way, we went from tech diversity to Star Wars, so maybe we should stop here :-)
- gohrt 11y ago
  > Is he a hero I can personally identify with? > Mace Windu > Vader Mace Windu was a completely bogus effort to put Samuel L Jackson in front of Black ticket-buyers. It wasn't even a good role for the incredible (but range-limited) performer Jackson is.

walshemj 11y ago

No He's the young inexperienced hero starting out just like Luke was.