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Hobnox AudioTool is realtime audio processing studio in Flash

24 points by est 17y ago

callmeed 17y ago
Take that, HTML5! Seriously, though, I don't know enough about music to make that work right but it's pretty impressive. Would be cool if Flash allowed local MIDI devices to connect.
defied 17y ago
Definitely worth reading for anyone interested in audio processing in Flash: http://blog.andre-michelle.com/ http://blog.andre-michelle.com/ and http://lab.andre-michelle.com/ http://lab.andre-michelle.com/
asmosoinio 17y ago
A really neat tool, great attention to detail! Wish I had more time to play with it... Had a nice "needs more cowbell" moment with the Tone Matrix default and the Rhythm Composer already!
ThomPete 17y ago
Hobnox is such a great example of why HTML5 have a long way to go before it even comes close to offering proper online experiences.
- ZeroGravitas 17y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruptive_technology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruptive_technology ""Low-end disruption" occurs when the rate at which products improve exceeds the rate at which customers can adopt the new performance. Therefore, at some point the performance of the product overshoots the needs of certain customer segments. At this point, a disruptive technology may enter the market and provide a product which has lower performance than the incumbent but which exceeds the requirements of certain segments, thereby gaining a foothold in the market. In low-end disruption, the disruptor is focused initially on serving the least profitable customer, who is happy with a good enough product. This type of customer is not willing to pay premium for enhancements in product functionality. Once the disruptor has gained foot hold in this customer segment, it seeks to improve its profit margin. To get higher profit margins, the disruptor needs to enter the segment where the customer is willing to pay a little more for higher quality. To ensure this quality in its product, the disruptor needs to innovate. The incumbent will not do much to retain its share in a not so profitable segment, and will move up-market and focus on its more attractive customers. After a number of such encounters, the incumbent is squeezed into smaller markets than it was previously serving. And then finally the disruptive technology meets the demands of the most profitable segment and drives the established company out of the market."
  - ThomPete 17y ago
    Yes I read Clayton Christensen. But it applies primarily to physical products like hardware. I am not sure you can make the same extrapolations in digital.
transmit101 17y ago
It's highly impressive, but the question has to be asked: is a web browser really the best interface for a system like this? The fact is that audio latency, hardware support and plugin support (amongst many other factors) are always likely to be severely limited when running in a browser environment of any kind, let alone on top of the Flash run-time. This is a great toy, and huge respects to the creator, but if you're even remotely serious about making music, you'll be ditching this within minutes and picking up a custom-built music environment which goes nowhere near a web browser at all. Sorry, but anybody implying that this is a good reason to retain Flash is going to have to come up with a much more convincing argument.
- est 17y ago
  > picking up a custom-built music environment which goes nowhere near a web browser at all. Flash didn't meant to compete with desktop/native apps, but HTML5 meant to compete with Flash, or even desktop/native apps. And HTML5 community had already claimed death of Flash several times. I am not a big fan of Flash, but if HTML5 was designed to be something that the industry's choice for the next 20 years, it'd better catch up fast.
24pfilms 17y ago
I am kind of amazed that hobnox has not created an embeddable widget to help the virality and move it forward...cause it is a hell of a tool.

24 points by est 17y ago

Take that, HTML5! Seriously, though, I don't know enough about music to make that work right but it's pretty impressive. Would be cool if Flash allowed local MIDI devices to connect.

defied 17y ago

Definitely worth reading for anyone interested in audio processing in Flash: http://blog.andre-michelle.com/ http://blog.andre-michelle.com/ and http://lab.andre-michelle.com/ http://lab.andre-michelle.com/

asmosoinio 17y ago

A really neat tool, great attention to detail! Wish I had more time to play with it... Had a nice "needs more cowbell" moment with the Tone Matrix default and the Rhythm Composer already!

ThomPete 17y ago

Hobnox is such a great example of why HTML5 have a long way to go before it even comes close to offering proper online experiences.

ZeroGravitas 17y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruptive_technology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruptive_technology ""Low-end disruption" occurs when the rate at which products improve exceeds the rate at which customers can adopt the new performance. Therefore, at some point the performance of the product overshoots the needs of certain customer segments. At this point, a disruptive technology may enter the market and provide a product which has lower performance than the incumbent but which exceeds the requirements of certain segments, thereby gaining a foothold in the market. In low-end disruption, the disruptor is focused initially on serving the least profitable customer, who is happy with a good enough product. This type of customer is not willing to pay premium for enhancements in product functionality. Once the disruptor has gained foot hold in this customer segment, it seeks to improve its profit margin. To get higher profit margins, the disruptor needs to enter the segment where the customer is willing to pay a little more for higher quality. To ensure this quality in its product, the disruptor needs to innovate. The incumbent will not do much to retain its share in a not so profitable segment, and will move up-market and focus on its more attractive customers. After a number of such encounters, the incumbent is squeezed into smaller markets than it was previously serving. And then finally the disruptive technology meets the demands of the most profitable segment and drives the established company out of the market."
- ThomPete 17y ago
  Yes I read Clayton Christensen. But it applies primarily to physical products like hardware. I am not sure you can make the same extrapolations in digital.

transmit101 17y ago

It's highly impressive, but the question has to be asked: is a web browser really the best interface for a system like this? The fact is that audio latency, hardware support and plugin support (amongst many other factors) are always likely to be severely limited when running in a browser environment of any kind, let alone on top of the Flash run-time. This is a great toy, and huge respects to the creator, but if you're even remotely serious about making music, you'll be ditching this within minutes and picking up a custom-built music environment which goes nowhere near a web browser at all. Sorry, but anybody implying that this is a good reason to retain Flash is going to have to come up with a much more convincing argument.

est 17y ago
> picking up a custom-built music environment which goes nowhere near a web browser at all. Flash didn't meant to compete with desktop/native apps, but HTML5 meant to compete with Flash, or even desktop/native apps. And HTML5 community had already claimed death of Flash several times. I am not a big fan of Flash, but if HTML5 was designed to be something that the industry's choice for the next 20 years, it'd better catch up fast.

24pfilms 17y ago

I am kind of amazed that hobnox has not created an embeddable widget to help the virality and move it forward...cause it is a hell of a tool.