> Those in developed countries are never going to go back to the standard of living found in poor ones, or at least not without fighting it to the death. Of co

> Those in developed countries are never going to go back to the standard of living found in poor ones, or at least not without fighting it to the death. Of course not, nor should they. > I agree with the rest and I wasn't implying that we can't have both. But there do seem to be a lot of people who take a moralistic tone about this or who push solutions that amount to the same. Understood, and I agree to a certain point, although I think a lot of the strident tone on the environmentalist side is more the result of sheer panic than a desire to moralize. Be that as it may, we can choose to filter out the tone and look at the substance, and when we do that the positions on both sides are not as irreconcilable as they appear (as you seem to agree).