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people ... understand that there's clearly something going wrong with the world something is terribly wrong This feeling of impending catastrophe, especially
by Udik 11y ago
people ... understand that there's clearly something going wrong with the world
something is terribly wrong
This feeling of impending catastrophe, especially when prompted by signals as imperceptible to a human being as average change of 1.33 degrees Celsius (on land) on the average of the 20th century temperatures, to me is an indication of that kind of paranoia or panic that feeds on tiny when not completely imaginary cues.
This is not to say that I don't believe climate change is real; just that I think that the debate would be more rational and productive if people relied on scientific data and stopped using personal feelings, anecdotes and questionable reports to support their position.
- JoeAltmaier 11y agoIs it an anecdote, when every ice mass on the planet is melting/has melted? When 400 century old ice in Siberia is all gone in a matter of a few years? When the million-year-old Antarctic ice shelf is undergoing runaway melting because of seawater rushing in underneath because the margins have melted away? The planet is undergoing irreversible change as we speak. The only 'imaginary' thinking is the denial that continues despite the overwhelming accumulation of data.
- Udik 11y agoNo, it's not, as long as you measure it and give precise figures. And we do it. I just tend not to trust somebody's personal assessment of the situation based on the fact that he thinks it's warmer than in the past: it might be local weather patterns, El Nino, simple suggestion.
- DasIch 11y agoIt's not somebody's personal assessment. It's the scientific consensus of almost all scientists. Climate change is not in question, it's not a possibilty under discussion it's as close to scientific fact as gravity and evolution.
- guscost 11y agoAll non-trivial change is irreversible.