Yeah, Java 8 can be quite clean and expressive. The biggest problem with Java 8 is the lack of support for the new features within the extensive library ecosyst

Yeah, Java 8 can be quite clean and expressive. The biggest problem with Java 8 is the lack of support for the new features within the extensive library ecosystem. You either have to revert to using horrible, old, and verbose patterns, or abandon many of the libraries which, to a large extent, are the reason Java is so useful in the first place. I am not convinced this will ever be fully fixed; the burden of legacy is just too great.