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The article states the following: The news keeps us informed so we can take action on important issues. … There’s undoubtedly truth to this idea. But it is o

by wsc981 11y ago

The article states the following: The news keeps us informed so we can take action on important issues. … There’s undoubtedly truth to this idea. But it is often simplistically stated, and done so without some important caveats. First, to truly be informed — to be able to make sense of the news in order know what action to take on it — requires more than the news itself. The news rarely gives context to what it reports, offering instead a ceaseless torrent of facts and data points. Background knowledge on history, psychology, philosophy, and so on, gleaned from books and other more stable, in-depth information sources, is required to make connections between these facts, stake out well-founded positions, and make sound decisions. I guess not every person is able to make informed decisions based on the news, and not everyone shares the same perspectives. But to give an example: when in pre-WW2 Germany: - Hitler's rise to power. - Kristallnacht happened. - I think Hitler's anti-jew rhetoric was overt, not hidden. Most likely some news sources reviewed Hitlers pamphlet "Mein Kampf". For plenty of jewish people this should have been a cue that Germany and perhaps most of Europe was not safe anymore. But for whatever reasons a lot of people still chose to stay. Perhaps they were not informed (didn't follow news), perhaps they found it hard to leave their property or relatives behind. By keeping track of the news, I think one can anticipate situations like this and take proper measures for themselves or their loved ones. Now I believe Europe will face a civil war in the near future, based on the news I've been following in the last few years. I'm not gonna stay in Europe myself. Actually within the coming months I'll travel to Asia and try to live there. I'm sure in the coming year we'll get more major terrorist attacks as we had in 2015. I'm not gonna stick around and find out. Of course, many of my friends don't agree with me and that's ok. For their sake I hope I'm wrong.

dalke 11y ago
> Now I believe Europe will face a civil war in the near future Can you be more specific? The most recent civil war in Europe was the 2001 insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia, as one of the Yugoslav Wars - is that the type of civil war you mean? The thing with this sort of prediction is that I've been hearing ones just like it, regarding the US, for decades: 2015 - "At that point, the citizens will clash beyond the ballot box. We see that beginning with random killings of police and random killings by police. It will only get worse. No one should want it and no one, myself included, does want it. But how much longer until we have another civil war?" https://journal.ijreview.com/2015/09/247405-clash-citizens/ https://journal.ijreview.com/2015/09/247405-clash-citizens/ 2011 - "I look around me and, like a geologist measuring the warning signs of an impending volcanic eruption, I’m disturbed and wondering if anyone else is picking up on the signs of disaster." - http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blogs/another-civil-war http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blogs/another-civil-w... 2003 - "Yes, I predict a civil war, of some momentous dimension. My decision to fight with Indians is to protect Indians, not because I despise America, my beloved country. This is a most unfortunate predicament, but it is the direct result of liberal ideology." - http://www.badeagle.com/journal/archives/2003_12.html#000397 http://www.badeagle.com/journal/archives/2003_12.html#000397 1968 - "Few people realize that a second civil war - black vs. white - could erupt across our nation at any moment." - https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1129&dat=19680214&id=1X1IAAAAIBAJ&sjid=hmwDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5934,1857349&hl=en https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1129&dat=19680214&id=... Oct 7, 1965 - "Stan said that in over to take over the United States the Communists plan to begin 'a civil war in the North' and the 'secession of several Southern states' from Union." - https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=351RAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kWwDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7169%2C1047057 https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=351RAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kWwD... (Or see this 1983 commentary - "... but without King's leadership and example we might well have had a great deal more [violence]. We had no 'second civil war,' as some at the time were predicting - https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1891&dat=19831103&id=RaYfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Y9YEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3021,252635&hl=en https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1891&dat=19831103&id=... ) In the 1960s, given the predictions of civil war in the US, would it have been a wise decision for American citizens in the US to stay, or to leave their property or relatives behind? How could they have figured out that the predictions of near-term civil war were incorrect?
- wsc981 11y ago
  Can you be more specific? The most recent civil war in Europe was the 2001 insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia, as one of the Yugoslav Wars - is that the type of civil war you mean? I believe we're heading to a civil war because there are several problems in Europe and politicians aren't able to deal with any of them: - We're becoming less democratic, so voices of people aren't heard. The EU and many of it's countries are more interested in the needs of big business. At some point this will anger people. - I don't believe endless immigration without integration will be a success. In Holland we already have lots of badly integrated 3rd and 4th generation immigrants. They have high unemployment, low education and are high up in criminality statistics. - Because of bad integration we're living more and more in a segregated society. - In Europe it's become clear in the last couple of weeks that our governments and the media have been trying to cover up or hide criminal actions by immigrants. This has been clearly stated by police officials & several media companies. - For the coming year even more immigrants are expected to come to (still) wealthy European countries compared to last year. - Our welfare state provides lots of benefits compared to e.g. the US, but allowing unbridled immigration means that in order to provide immigrants with money, food, housing we'll have to raise the (already very high) taxes of the working populace. - Because our welfare system provides so much, there's very little incentive to find work, which again prevents people from integrating into society. If immigrants don't need to work with Dutch people in order to survive, there's little reason to learn to speak and write Dutch. There's also little reason to adopt Dutch culture if you live in a muslim neighbourhood where everyone speaks Arab anyway. - People from the Middle-East and countries like Morocco also seem to get sick much more often compared to e.g. Dutch woman [0]. This puts a huge pressure on our health system. - In Holland immigrants ("refugees") are given quickly a cheap house, while many poor Dutch people have to wait in line. And we already have a housing shortage with regards to cheap housing. - Woman will be less safe, more sexual attacks will happen on woman. The whole situation in Europe is not sustainable and if politicians aren't willing to listen to the voice of the people, at some point the people will have to fend for themselves. At some point some Islamic attack will happen on some Europeans, some Europeans will take revenge on Muslim people and then the shit will hit the fan. The 'funny' thing is most other minorities in our countries have integrated properly. They are hard working members of society and don't demand certain rights or exceptions because of their religion. There are no problems with Vietnamese, Chinese, Indian, Indonesian (in Holland these are mostly from Christian background), Polish, etc… people. Only big problem is with muslim people. And I think it's because Arab-Muslim culture is incompatible with Western culture. What we're going to see in the coming year is more major terrorist attacks in Europe. In Germany people have started to arm themselves because they're afraid the police is not able to defend their loved ones again muslim immigrants [0]. More countries will follow suit. It's gonna be Yugoslavia 2.0 / Libanon 2.0 in Europe. Which is why I'll leave this year. --- [0]: http://www.equityhealthj.com/content/3/1/8 http://www.equityhealthj.com/content/3/1/8 [1]: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7088/germany-weapons http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7088/germany-weapons

by wsc981 11y ago

dalke 11y ago

> Now I believe Europe will face a civil war in the near future Can you be more specific? The most recent civil war in Europe was the 2001 insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia, as one of the Yugoslav Wars - is that the type of civil war you mean? The thing with this sort of prediction is that I've been hearing ones just like it, regarding the US, for decades: 2015 - "At that point, the citizens will clash beyond the ballot box. We see that beginning with random killings of police and random killings by police. It will only get worse. No one should want it and no one, myself included, does want it. But how much longer until we have another civil war?" https://journal.ijreview.com/2015/09/247405-clash-citizens/ https://journal.ijreview.com/2015/09/247405-clash-citizens/ 2011 - "I look around me and, like a geologist measuring the warning signs of an impending volcanic eruption, I’m disturbed and wondering if anyone else is picking up on the signs of disaster." - http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blogs/another-civil-war http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blogs/another-civil-w... 2003 - "Yes, I predict a civil war, of some momentous dimension. My decision to fight with Indians is to protect Indians, not because I despise America, my beloved country. This is a most unfortunate predicament, but it is the direct result of liberal ideology." - http://www.badeagle.com/journal/archives/2003_12.html#000397 http://www.badeagle.com/journal/archives/2003_12.html#000397 1968 - "Few people realize that a second civil war - black vs. white - could erupt across our nation at any moment." - https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1129&dat=19680214&id=1X1IAAAAIBAJ&sjid=hmwDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5934,1857349&hl=en https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1129&dat=19680214&id=... Oct 7, 1965 - "Stan said that in over to take over the United States the Communists plan to begin 'a civil war in the North' and the 'secession of several Southern states' from Union." - https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=351RAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kWwDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7169%2C1047057 https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=351RAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kWwD... (Or see this 1983 commentary - "... but without King's leadership and example we might well have had a great deal more [violence]. We had no 'second civil war,' as some at the time were predicting - https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1891&dat=19831103&id=RaYfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Y9YEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3021,252635&hl=en https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1891&dat=19831103&id=... ) In the 1960s, given the predictions of civil war in the US, would it have been a wise decision for American citizens in the US to stay, or to leave their property or relatives behind? How could they have figured out that the predictions of near-term civil war were incorrect?

wsc981 11y ago
Can you be more specific? The most recent civil war in Europe was the 2001 insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia, as one of the Yugoslav Wars - is that the type of civil war you mean? I believe we're heading to a civil war because there are several problems in Europe and politicians aren't able to deal with any of them: - We're becoming less democratic, so voices of people aren't heard. The EU and many of it's countries are more interested in the needs of big business. At some point this will anger people. - I don't believe endless immigration without integration will be a success. In Holland we already have lots of badly integrated 3rd and 4th generation immigrants. They have high unemployment, low education and are high up in criminality statistics. - Because of bad integration we're living more and more in a segregated society. - In Europe it's become clear in the last couple of weeks that our governments and the media have been trying to cover up or hide criminal actions by immigrants. This has been clearly stated by police officials & several media companies. - For the coming year even more immigrants are expected to come to (still) wealthy European countries compared to last year. - Our welfare state provides lots of benefits compared to e.g. the US, but allowing unbridled immigration means that in order to provide immigrants with money, food, housing we'll have to raise the (already very high) taxes of the working populace. - Because our welfare system provides so much, there's very little incentive to find work, which again prevents people from integrating into society. If immigrants don't need to work with Dutch people in order to survive, there's little reason to learn to speak and write Dutch. There's also little reason to adopt Dutch culture if you live in a muslim neighbourhood where everyone speaks Arab anyway. - People from the Middle-East and countries like Morocco also seem to get sick much more often compared to e.g. Dutch woman [0]. This puts a huge pressure on our health system. - In Holland immigrants ("refugees") are given quickly a cheap house, while many poor Dutch people have to wait in line. And we already have a housing shortage with regards to cheap housing. - Woman will be less safe, more sexual attacks will happen on woman. The whole situation in Europe is not sustainable and if politicians aren't willing to listen to the voice of the people, at some point the people will have to fend for themselves. At some point some Islamic attack will happen on some Europeans, some Europeans will take revenge on Muslim people and then the shit will hit the fan. The 'funny' thing is most other minorities in our countries have integrated properly. They are hard working members of society and don't demand certain rights or exceptions because of their religion. There are no problems with Vietnamese, Chinese, Indian, Indonesian (in Holland these are mostly from Christian background), Polish, etc… people. Only big problem is with muslim people. And I think it's because Arab-Muslim culture is incompatible with Western culture. What we're going to see in the coming year is more major terrorist attacks in Europe. In Germany people have started to arm themselves because they're afraid the police is not able to defend their loved ones again muslim immigrants [0]. More countries will follow suit. It's gonna be Yugoslavia 2.0 / Libanon 2.0 in Europe. Which is why I'll leave this year. --- [0]: http://www.equityhealthj.com/content/3/1/8 http://www.equityhealthj.com/content/3/1/8 [1]: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7088/germany-weapons http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7088/germany-weapons