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> I never felt like I could productively work with a tiling manager, since I frequently overlap windows as a mechanism for easy access Part of the idea of most

by johnmaguire2013 11y ago

> I never felt like I could productively work with a tiling manager, since I frequently overlap windows as a mechanism for easy access Part of the idea of most tiling window managers is that you use the keyboard to control them, not the mouse. As such, you no longer need to overlap windows to quickly switch to the one you want. You have keybinds to do so (which actually exist in the default Windows and OSX window manager as well.)

ddingus 11y ago
Seeing more than one at a time is high value. I personally hate the basic tile schemes, and full screen in many of my use cases. Yes, when I'm using one app hard, full screen is good. When I'm using multiple ones, I often want to copy paste info, or just refer to it. Auto pop to foreground is toxic, it forces a change in state when there is no need for that change most of the time. On IRIX, focus follows mouse, and middle button copy paste were awesome. Still prefer that over other schemes. Many people get a second screen to accomplish what can very easily be done with one a lot of the time. Tablets are fine consumption devices. Some create is there, like graphics, but most create has UX requirements that exceed the simple touch sweet spots.
- fnordo 11y ago
  i3 defaults to focus following the mouse and middle pasting
- JupiterMoon 11y ago
  Linux uses middle click for one of its clipboards. Most window mangers have focus follows mouse as an option.
  - ddingus 11y ago
    Yes. I'm aware of and will use those features on Linux. I don't use nor like tiling much, due to overlaps and how I find myself using them. Some here are saying more iteration could improve on that. Maybe so. I'm sure not oppose to giving new things a go.
    - JupiterMoon 11y ago
      Just so you know xfce's window manager (or at least the xubuntu version version of it -- there may be patches not present in the upstream) allows focus follows mouse and has overlapping windows... EDIT I might be confused here. I'm reading that you are assuming that one has to use a tiling WM to get one of the features you want.
      - ddingus 11y ago
        Not at all. It's all good. I know about xfce, etc... I do prefer overlap with those features, among others, present.

ddingus 11y ago

Seeing more than one at a time is high value. I personally hate the basic tile schemes, and full screen in many of my use cases. Yes, when I'm using one app hard, full screen is good. When I'm using multiple ones, I often want to copy paste info, or just refer to it. Auto pop to foreground is toxic, it forces a change in state when there is no need for that change most of the time. On IRIX, focus follows mouse, and middle button copy paste were awesome. Still prefer that over other schemes. Many people get a second screen to accomplish what can very easily be done with one a lot of the time. Tablets are fine consumption devices. Some create is there, like graphics, but most create has UX requirements that exceed the simple touch sweet spots.

fnordo 11y ago
i3 defaults to focus following the mouse and middle pasting
JupiterMoon 11y ago
Linux uses middle click for one of its clipboards. Most window mangers have focus follows mouse as an option.
- ddingus 11y ago
  Yes. I'm aware of and will use those features on Linux. I don't use nor like tiling much, due to overlaps and how I find myself using them. Some here are saying more iteration could improve on that. Maybe so. I'm sure not oppose to giving new things a go.
  - JupiterMoon 11y ago
    Just so you know xfce's window manager (or at least the xubuntu version version of it -- there may be patches not present in the upstream) allows focus follows mouse and has overlapping windows... EDIT I might be confused here. I'm reading that you are assuming that one has to use a tiling WM to get one of the features you want.
    - ddingus 11y ago
      Not at all. It's all good. I know about xfce, etc... I do prefer overlap with those features, among others, present.