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"Telling people that a 6 week bootcamp is the same as a 4 year CS degree is absurd and offensive." Any bootcamp telling that to people is obviously lying. Most
by thebiglebrewski 11y ago
"Telling people that a 6 week bootcamp is the same as a 4 year CS degree is absurd and offensive."
Any bootcamp telling that to people is obviously lying. Most of them don't make this claim. The ones that do are better at marketing than teaching.
"Imagine a bootcamp for medicine - in 6 weeks they learn the most common procedures: how to prescribe antibiotics, how to remove an appendix, and how to set a broken arm. They're told they can learn the rest as they go, and to go start calling themselves doctors."
If a website goes down, nobody dies, let's be honest here (in the vast majority of cases). Also, you're not thinking about this openly enough - not everyone can teach themselves to learn to code, and bootcamp grads are not expected to become senior software developers in 6 weeks (plus most programs are 10-14 weeks). Instead, they're expected to get a junior level position and keep learning.
I just think that you're view of bootcamps is WAY too black and white. Have a little imagination and understand that while they're not the right thing for everyone, there's a gray area and many people actually benefit from them and get a programming or tech related job, or find out that coding is not for them, both not terrible outcomes. And then there are bootcamps that are actually harmful - but it's kind of wrong to group those in with everyone else.
Just saying not to have a kneejerk reaction about something that's a lot more complicated than you think it is.
- tkahnoski 11y agoThe damaging thing most of these websites can do is leak personal information. Sometimes just annoying, but large scale password breaches can escalate to secondary problems for the public. A 4 year CS degree does not necessarily encapsulate security training as it's usually an elective, but it at least gives the foundational understanding of algorithms to understand why something is secure vs insecure.
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- ativzzz 11y agoWhile I agree that a 4 year CS degree is superior to a bootcamp in terms of computing knowledge and skill, the notion that knowing anything about algorithms leads to knowing simple web based security, most of which is baked into whatever framework you're using anyway, is silly.
- codeddesign 11y ago"If a website goes down, nobody dies" Well...if a major site goes down or many sites go down then companies lose revenue which causes job loss. With every 1% that unemployment increases, 40,000 people die/commit suicide. So...down sites can cause death and vast harm to the economy as a whole ;)
- crispyambulance 11y agomeh... Job loss and fatal hemorrhaging of money can happen for a million different reasons. Having a few novice folks on board just "learning the ropes" and making some mistakes along the way isn't going to kill any company, let alone damage the industry.