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>In that week, I was kissed on the cheek, asked to sit on my manager’s lap... >Protect yourself and others. Report it to HR. The correct response is to punch h

>In that week, I was kissed on the cheek, asked to sit on my manager’s lap... >Protect yourself and others. Report it to HR. The correct response is to punch him in the face, defend your personal space with extreme prejudice.

gilgoomesh 11y ago
I assume you're kidding but if you're not: you run the risk of being fired for physical assault, whether or not you're in the right. In any case, as reported in the article, people in that situation are more likely to be paralysed by shock and doubt. A blunt, self-assured response in the moment is unlikely.
- sre_ops 11y ago
  > I assume you're kidding but if you're not: you run the risk of being fired for physical assault, whether or not you're in the right. And that's when you sue the living hell out of the company and walk away with a few million dollars.
dhimes 11y ago
I don't agree, but upvoting because I think it is worth discussing the idea that women get attacked like this (and that's what sexual harassment is) because the men think they can bully the women. Perhaps not a punch in the face, but a clear shove away may go a long way towards making the point. I am also suspicious of approaching HR first. Perhaps a lawyer has written about how to handle this online, especially what and how to document, how to handle any witnesses, etc., but if not I would hope my wife would talk to a lawyer first. I guarantee that HR knows how to handle the incident, but they are working on behalf of the company. That doesn't mean they are working on behalf of the manager, though, so they can be at least half-trusted (IMHO). But I would still prefer that my wife have her own source of knowledge on this situation.
- edraferi 11y ago
  Agree. There's a clear escalation path for this kind of thing. First time something weird happens, ignore it as a possible misunderstanding / off day. Second time, make a clear verbal rejection. Third time forward, you're dealing with a pattern of clearly unwanted behavior so everything gets documented in writing and reported to HR. If HR doesn't address the situation in a week or so, bring in the lawyers.

gilgoomesh 11y ago

I assume you're kidding but if you're not: you run the risk of being fired for physical assault, whether or not you're in the right. In any case, as reported in the article, people in that situation are more likely to be paralysed by shock and doubt. A blunt, self-assured response in the moment is unlikely.

sre_ops 11y ago
> I assume you're kidding but if you're not: you run the risk of being fired for physical assault, whether or not you're in the right. And that's when you sue the living hell out of the company and walk away with a few million dollars.

dhimes 11y ago

I don't agree, but upvoting because I think it is worth discussing the idea that women get attacked like this (and that's what sexual harassment is) because the men think they can bully the women. Perhaps not a punch in the face, but a clear shove away may go a long way towards making the point. I am also suspicious of approaching HR first. Perhaps a lawyer has written about how to handle this online, especially what and how to document, how to handle any witnesses, etc., but if not I would hope my wife would talk to a lawyer first. I guarantee that HR knows how to handle the incident, but they are working on behalf of the company. That doesn't mean they are working on behalf of the manager, though, so they can be at least half-trusted (IMHO). But I would still prefer that my wife have her own source of knowledge on this situation.

edraferi 11y ago
Agree. There's a clear escalation path for this kind of thing. First time something weird happens, ignore it as a possible misunderstanding / off day. Second time, make a clear verbal rejection. Third time forward, you're dealing with a pattern of clearly unwanted behavior so everything gets documented in writing and reported to HR. If HR doesn't address the situation in a week or so, bring in the lawyers.