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Think different? No, exploit the same.

by yomism 11y ago

valleyer 11y ago
You really don't think this is a sin of omission? The abuse is happening multiple suppliers away from the companies in question. And Apple, Microsoft, and Samsung are reportedly implicated. I'm not pessimistic enough to think they are conspiring to keep Congolese children abused. None of this excuses it, and now that is brought to light I expect at the very least that these particular vendors are dropped. But comments like yours seem either intentionally inflammatory or very naive.
- realusername 11y ago
  It's just that Apple (unlike Microsoft and Samsung) brands itself as a company with human values so obviously people are paying more attention to this aspect for Apple. But yes, I agree indeed.
  - stinos 11y ago
    brands itself as a company with human values How so? (never got that impression, but I'm also a fervent ad/commercial skipper) Anyway I really doubt any of the electronic devices any of us have is completely clean (wrt this topic). Not sure if such a thing even exist. At least with clothing or so you can get alternatives if you want.
    - zimpenfish 11y ago
      Apple do go to (what seems to me, your mileage may vary) reasonable lengths to produce supplier chain responsibility reports and manage such accordingly. Which I guess is the "branding" mentioned above but I'd also guess the intended (snarky) meaning was "empty branding" rather than "branding by doing" which seems to be the case. [edit: minor tweak for clarification]
- yomism 11y ago
  Of course is intentionally inflammatory, for the sake of discussion at least :) The problem (as mentioned in other comment) is that Apple positions itself as the company that does thing different, the company for the creative people that "cares". And even if I don't hate Apple per se, I like these moments where the wind blows open the courtain, just for a moment, and we can get a peek of the insides of the machinery of our capitalist system. It is the same that happened with the Snowden leaks, we all suspected it but the reality was worse than expected. But hey, I earn my bread developing mobile apps and change phone every year so I'm guilty as charged. But in some twisted way I love to see the way we ignore how things work in the reality when it causes us some disconfort.

Think different? No, exploit the same.

by yomism 11y ago

Think different? No, exploit the same.

You really don't think this is a sin of omission? The abuse is happening multiple suppliers away from the companies in question. And Apple, Microsoft, and Samsung are reportedly implicated. I'm not pessimistic enough to think they are conspiring to keep Congolese children abused. None of this excuses it, and now that is brought to light I expect at the very least that these particular vendors are dropped. But comments like yours seem either intentionally inflammatory or very naive.

realusername 11y ago
It's just that Apple (unlike Microsoft and Samsung) brands itself as a company with human values so obviously people are paying more attention to this aspect for Apple. But yes, I agree indeed.
- stinos 11y ago
  brands itself as a company with human values How so? (never got that impression, but I'm also a fervent ad/commercial skipper) Anyway I really doubt any of the electronic devices any of us have is completely clean (wrt this topic). Not sure if such a thing even exist. At least with clothing or so you can get alternatives if you want.
  - zimpenfish 11y ago
    Apple do go to (what seems to me, your mileage may vary) reasonable lengths to produce supplier chain responsibility reports and manage such accordingly. Which I guess is the "branding" mentioned above but I'd also guess the intended (snarky) meaning was "empty branding" rather than "branding by doing" which seems to be the case. [edit: minor tweak for clarification]
yomism 11y ago
Of course is intentionally inflammatory, for the sake of discussion at least :) The problem (as mentioned in other comment) is that Apple positions itself as the company that does thing different, the company for the creative people that "cares". And even if I don't hate Apple per se, I like these moments where the wind blows open the courtain, just for a moment, and we can get a peek of the insides of the machinery of our capitalist system. It is the same that happened with the Snowden leaks, we all suspected it but the reality was worse than expected. But hey, I earn my bread developing mobile apps and change phone every year so I'm guilty as charged. But in some twisted way I love to see the way we ignore how things work in the reality when it causes us some disconfort.