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The first step in solving this is to actually aware this is happening, then try to make others aware of the same... Then try to do things that are non-hedonist

The first step in solving this is to actually aware this is happening, then try to make others aware of the same... Then try to do things that are non-hedonistic and/or non-consumeristic (not sure if there's such a word)... Yeah, it's a LOT harder than it sounds, but that's the least we can do IMHO and keep your family and/or friends together, and always try to leave a good image in their eye

itchyouch 11y ago
There was a comment on Reddit about the ingredients to relationships: Common purpose/Shared interest, serendipitous meeting, continual facetime (IIRC). Schools and churches form a ton of relationships due to their nature of bringing people together under a singular purpose and allowing for serendipitous connections to form. It doesn't have to be church that brings people together, and there are other communities that have church like qualities such as car clubs, user groups, etc. What we do lack is a church-alternative meetup for the masses that forge a community together. The closest we probably have is reddit. Just before the technological age, communities were brought together for survival, but now that we really don't even need each other for survival e.g. more efficient to hunt/build together, it seems that communities are decaying away. I've found it interesting that in the immigrant communities, religion is a pretext for bringing a single ethnicity together for people to form relationships and business partnerships. It does seem that religion has a certain staying power only if to purely provide community under the guise of spreading a "good" morals.
- bsder 11y ago
  > It doesn't have to be church that brings people together, and there are other communities that have church like qualities such as car clubs, user groups, etc. Participation in social activities requires time--the presupposition that you aren't working two jobs to make ends meet.
  - TeMPOraL 11y ago
    Strong communities, like congregations in many Protestant denominations, tend to help each other. A lot of life bullshit tends to be cut out this way. You may still need to work your two jobs, but someone will come and stay with your kid for free. Or they'll help you take care of your sick grandmother, so that you only have to quit one job.

itchyouch 11y ago

There was a comment on Reddit about the ingredients to relationships: Common purpose/Shared interest, serendipitous meeting, continual facetime (IIRC). Schools and churches form a ton of relationships due to their nature of bringing people together under a singular purpose and allowing for serendipitous connections to form. It doesn't have to be church that brings people together, and there are other communities that have church like qualities such as car clubs, user groups, etc. What we do lack is a church-alternative meetup for the masses that forge a community together. The closest we probably have is reddit. Just before the technological age, communities were brought together for survival, but now that we really don't even need each other for survival e.g. more efficient to hunt/build together, it seems that communities are decaying away. I've found it interesting that in the immigrant communities, religion is a pretext for bringing a single ethnicity together for people to form relationships and business partnerships. It does seem that religion has a certain staying power only if to purely provide community under the guise of spreading a "good" morals.

bsder 11y ago
> It doesn't have to be church that brings people together, and there are other communities that have church like qualities such as car clubs, user groups, etc. Participation in social activities requires time--the presupposition that you aren't working two jobs to make ends meet.
- TeMPOraL 11y ago
  Strong communities, like congregations in many Protestant denominations, tend to help each other. A lot of life bullshit tends to be cut out this way. You may still need to work your two jobs, but someone will come and stay with your kid for free. Or they'll help you take care of your sick grandmother, so that you only have to quit one job.