> Does this new one really push TV forward? Just a little bit. The fluid UI, iOS foundation, app store and federated search means it's automatically a superior

> Does this new one really push TV forward? Just a little bit. The fluid UI, iOS foundation, app store and federated search means it's automatically a superior product to competitors such as Roku or Fire TV. And it is a very nice package. It's very smooth. Apps like Plex and Netflix are a bit rough, but now they have a good foundation to build on, and the app store will change the amount of competition in this space - already there are three competing Plex clients, for example. I was in the same boat, by the way: I bought the 2nd gen AppleTV, tried to like the 3rd gen, but it was slow and generally terrible. Same with competing products. I bought them and ended up not using them. The new AppleTV I'm actually using. It helps that I have it hooked up to Plex. Unlike the old Plex client you could install into a jailbroken 2nd/3rd-gen AppleTV, is actually very usable.