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I like Google as a company and I love their products (As much as you can love a tool), but jesus how can he work there and use Blogger? It's such a piece of cra

I like Google as a company and I love their products (As much as you can love a tool), but jesus how can he work there and use Blogger? It's such a piece of crap.

jlees 17y ago
it's a Google product. it was quite good in 2001 or thereabouts..
csomar 17y ago
What's wrong with Blogger? It does its' job well. What's the point from Blogging? -> Getting the word to the others. and it does it well, so it's not crap.
- fexl 17y ago
  I like blogger.com. Just yesterday I fired up a blog for my wife's retail clothing store. Now she can do all that stuff herself instead of relying on her custom-programmer husband. :)
- ThinkWriteMute 17y ago
  If getting it done was the only objective then why isn't Blogger just a web server that people can FTP self written HTML files to? Blogger has a lot of paper cuts that slowly make it either unbearable to use or unsightly to visit. It takes me 4 refreshes just to comment on a page.
  - fexl 17y ago
    I know what you mean, sometimes things can get a little flaky. I haven't tried the comment feature yet. It is after all a big pile of Javascript with WYSIWYG editors and such. So far I have found the bugs slightly annoying, cute, and avoidable. For my own high-powered purposes I've written a completely custom CMS with fully encrypted and extensible object types based on pure text. But have I written an "object" with a WYSIWYG editor, Labels, Archives, and other stuff built in yet? Heck no. So blogger.com here I come.
  - jheriko 17y ago
    Because most people don't know what FTP is, if they even know it exists - much less how to use it? Ditto on HTML. It might be a bit flaky, but for the average end user its significantly (perhaps "infinitely") more useful than an FTP client and a text editor. Maybe what you want is Google Sites?
btilly 17y ago
The answer is that I'm engaging in satisficing behavior, not optimizing behavior. When I wanted to start a blog it was there and free. I've seen lots of other people use it. And so far it has been good enough for my needs. If I was a serious blogger I'd likely find things I didn't like about it and look for something better. But until some obvious shortcoming irritates me, it isn't worth the effort for me to find something better.
- ThinkWriteMute 17y ago
  Ok, so you freely admit that there are (probably) things that are wrong with it if you looked hard enough. ...So why isn't it better? EDIT TO ADD: You know, this is really part of the bigger problem. Google has a fair amount of side services that just barely scoot by and it's pretty stupid. Example: Google is a search engine company, but their Chrome Extension Search page HAS NO SEARCH FEATURES.
  - scott_s 17y ago
    Responding to "It could probably improve, but I haven't looked closely" with "Why isn't it better?" is nonsensical to me. He just said he hadn't analyzed it - and that he didn't feel the need to.
  - btilly 17y ago
    All software could be better. No matter how good it is you can find things to improve about it. As for Google's software, a lot of people at Google fully agree with the startup idea that you should release something fast then iterate. That means that we release a lot of stuff that (quite deliberately) doesn't have a lot of corporate spit and polish. And things that don't come to our attention as seriously needing improvement are liable to remain unimproved. If you think that something particularly needs improvement, send feedback.
    - ThinkWriteMute 17y ago
      I don't care about initial spit and shine. Really I don't. As soon as Chrome came out I downloaded it and used it even when it didn't have Adblock. But Blogger has been out for a looooong time.

I like Google as a company and I love their products (As much as you can love a tool), but jesus how can he work there and use Blogger? It's such a piece of crap.

jlees 17y ago

it's a Google product. it was quite good in 2001 or thereabouts..

csomar 17y ago

What's wrong with Blogger? It does its' job well. What's the point from Blogging? -> Getting the word to the others. and it does it well, so it's not crap.

fexl 17y ago
I like blogger.com. Just yesterday I fired up a blog for my wife's retail clothing store. Now she can do all that stuff herself instead of relying on her custom-programmer husband. :)
ThinkWriteMute 17y ago
If getting it done was the only objective then why isn't Blogger just a web server that people can FTP self written HTML files to? Blogger has a lot of paper cuts that slowly make it either unbearable to use or unsightly to visit. It takes me 4 refreshes just to comment on a page.
- fexl 17y ago
  I know what you mean, sometimes things can get a little flaky. I haven't tried the comment feature yet. It is after all a big pile of Javascript with WYSIWYG editors and such. So far I have found the bugs slightly annoying, cute, and avoidable. For my own high-powered purposes I've written a completely custom CMS with fully encrypted and extensible object types based on pure text. But have I written an "object" with a WYSIWYG editor, Labels, Archives, and other stuff built in yet? Heck no. So blogger.com here I come.
- jheriko 17y ago
  Because most people don't know what FTP is, if they even know it exists - much less how to use it? Ditto on HTML. It might be a bit flaky, but for the average end user its significantly (perhaps "infinitely") more useful than an FTP client and a text editor. Maybe what you want is Google Sites?

btilly 17y ago

The answer is that I'm engaging in satisficing behavior, not optimizing behavior. When I wanted to start a blog it was there and free. I've seen lots of other people use it. And so far it has been good enough for my needs. If I was a serious blogger I'd likely find things I didn't like about it and look for something better. But until some obvious shortcoming irritates me, it isn't worth the effort for me to find something better.

ThinkWriteMute 17y ago
Ok, so you freely admit that there are (probably) things that are wrong with it if you looked hard enough. ...So why isn't it better? EDIT TO ADD: You know, this is really part of the bigger problem. Google has a fair amount of side services that just barely scoot by and it's pretty stupid. Example: Google is a search engine company, but their Chrome Extension Search page HAS NO SEARCH FEATURES.
- scott_s 17y ago
  Responding to "It could probably improve, but I haven't looked closely" with "Why isn't it better?" is nonsensical to me. He just said he hadn't analyzed it - and that he didn't feel the need to.
- btilly 17y ago
  All software could be better. No matter how good it is you can find things to improve about it. As for Google's software, a lot of people at Google fully agree with the startup idea that you should release something fast then iterate. That means that we release a lot of stuff that (quite deliberately) doesn't have a lot of corporate spit and polish. And things that don't come to our attention as seriously needing improvement are liable to remain unimproved. If you think that something particularly needs improvement, send feedback.
  - ThinkWriteMute 17y ago
    I don't care about initial spit and shine. Really I don't. As soon as Chrome came out I downloaded it and used it even when it didn't have Adblock. But Blogger has been out for a looooong time.