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I agree, to be honest it reminds me of newspeak, and whilst having a rigorous framework in place with allowed language patterns might well help in the corporate

I agree, to be honest it reminds me of newspeak, and whilst having a rigorous framework in place with allowed language patterns might well help in the corporate world, startups are not going to want to waste cognitive load on it.

ACow_Adonis 11y ago
I was going to comment: It's written in that corporatese/political/management style that reminds me of orwellian critiques of language. It is superficially and obviously true, provides labels and slogans, but doesn't actually say anything meaningful or particularly concrete. Everyone can read it, nod their head in agreement, it provides those with authority words to use that support them in however they want to structure things, and a mirror image opposition vocab provides standard put downs against those forms they don't like which can't really be argued against... But if you brought everyone together and got them to read it, i don't think most people would have actually changed their mind much about how they think or what they would do, specifically because the language is pretty much vacant empty fluff... Like the literary equivalent of rorschach inkblots.
- shalmanese 11y ago
  It's one of those things where you have to learn the rules before you can break them. The problem with such things is that if you present them as rules you can break when you learn them, smart people are so eager to get to the rule breaking bit that they try and skip over the rule learning as fast as possible. The solution seems to be to confidently present them as rigidly plain rules and only let people in on the secret that they're breakable once they've demonstrated some degree of mastery. It's better to optimize for breaking the rules too late vs breaking the rules too early. You see this all the time in beginner art classes. A big list of The Rules is presented up front and there's no brooking of dissention. Even if you break The Rules in the right way, you are punished because it's not yet time to break The Rules.
  - moron4hire 11y ago
    This is a failure of messaging on behalf of art schools. Such classes should make it clear that certain technique is being learned, not general 'art'. If the expressed goal is to learn technique, then no student should be surprised to receive bad marks for failure to adhere to technique. And that is schooling. This is industry. You're not here to learn the basics of your craft. You're here to perform. I don't think there is any room for junior people in a startup. Some non-producer, MBA-ran startups think they can't afford senior people. I think we can't afford the inevitable mistakes from inexperienced--however well-meaning--people.
    - Jemmeh 11y ago
      But coding is complex and ever evolving. No matter how senior you are there is always something to learn.

ACow_Adonis 11y ago

I was going to comment: It's written in that corporatese/political/management style that reminds me of orwellian critiques of language. It is superficially and obviously true, provides labels and slogans, but doesn't actually say anything meaningful or particularly concrete. Everyone can read it, nod their head in agreement, it provides those with authority words to use that support them in however they want to structure things, and a mirror image opposition vocab provides standard put downs against those forms they don't like which can't really be argued against... But if you brought everyone together and got them to read it, i don't think most people would have actually changed their mind much about how they think or what they would do, specifically because the language is pretty much vacant empty fluff... Like the literary equivalent of rorschach inkblots.

shalmanese 11y ago
It's one of those things where you have to learn the rules before you can break them. The problem with such things is that if you present them as rules you can break when you learn them, smart people are so eager to get to the rule breaking bit that they try and skip over the rule learning as fast as possible. The solution seems to be to confidently present them as rigidly plain rules and only let people in on the secret that they're breakable once they've demonstrated some degree of mastery. It's better to optimize for breaking the rules too late vs breaking the rules too early. You see this all the time in beginner art classes. A big list of The Rules is presented up front and there's no brooking of dissention. Even if you break The Rules in the right way, you are punished because it's not yet time to break The Rules.
- moron4hire 11y ago
  This is a failure of messaging on behalf of art schools. Such classes should make it clear that certain technique is being learned, not general 'art'. If the expressed goal is to learn technique, then no student should be surprised to receive bad marks for failure to adhere to technique. And that is schooling. This is industry. You're not here to learn the basics of your craft. You're here to perform. I don't think there is any room for junior people in a startup. Some non-producer, MBA-ran startups think they can't afford senior people. I think we can't afford the inevitable mistakes from inexperienced--however well-meaning--people.
  - Jemmeh 11y ago
    But coding is complex and ever evolving. No matter how senior you are there is always something to learn.