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I'm the first one to admit that Glacier pricing is neither clear nor competetive regarding retreival fees. I do think that a lot of people use it the wrong way:
by dirktheman 11y ago
I'm the first one to admit that Glacier pricing is neither clear nor competetive regarding retreival fees. I do think that a lot of people use it the wrong way: as a cheap backup. I use:
1. My Time Machine backup (primary backup)
2. BackBlaze (secondary, offsite backup)
3. Amazon Glacier (tertiary, Amazon Ireland region)
I only store stuff that I can't afford to miss on Glacier: photos, family videos and some important documents. Glacier isn't my backup, it's the backup of my backup of my backup: it's my end-of-the-world-scenario backup. When my physical harddrive fails AND my backblaze account is compromised for some reason, only then will I need to retrieve files from Glacier. I chose the Ireland region so my most important files aren't even on the same physical contintent.
When things get so dire that I need to retrieve stuff from Glacier, I'd be happy to pony up 150 dollars. For the rest of it, the 90 cents a month fee is just a cheap insurance.
- mentando 11y agoI like your commitment to backups. Keep it up!
- danieldk 11y agoI have a similar tiered setup, but didn't add Glacier or Nearline yet. 1. Synchronization across multiple machines using Bittorrent Sync. 30-day archive on local machines and one remote (encrypted-only). One local machine has the archive set to non-deleting. 2. Time machine backups of my primary machines. 3. Encrypted backups through Arq to OneDrive. I'll probably soon add encrypted Arq backups to B2 or Nearline. OneDrive is practically unbeatable price-wise. I work at a university, so have the academic discount. That's 65.97 Euro for four years, or ~1.37 per month for 1TB of storage space (though I only use a fraction of that).
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- tehbeard 11y agoWith the time machine backup and his backblaze gone as well? There is no perfect backup solution, and I'd be surprised if this one failed in my lifetime.
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- dirktheman 11y agoIf all of these fail at the same time I guess we'll have other things to worry about than some photos and documents...
- StavrosK 11y agoSimilarly, I have a NAS at my house pull stuff from all the other computers and back it up to its drives (snapshotted with ZFS to avoid deleting files and realizing it days later), and borg to upload to rsync.net. I paid $54 per year for 150 GB, which is pretty cheap.
- DavideNL 11y agofyi, there's also Amazon Cloud Drive which includes unlimited storage for $59.99/year.
- StavrosK 11y agoThat's a great price, but I don't think it works with borg, which is just fantastic. Hands down, the best of the programs I tried (it's a fork of attic: http://www.stavros.io/posts/holy-grail-backups/ http://www.stavros.io/posts/holy-grail-backups/)
- rsync 11y agoGlad to hear you are happy :) For those that don't know, rsync.net now has full, native[1] support for both attic and borg. Our longstanding "HN Readers" discount make it very affordable. Just email us. [1] Native, as opposed to pointing attic to a local sshfs mount point that terminates at rsync.net, which is what we used to offer to attic/borg users. We don't have a python interpreter in our environment, so it was not easy to provide those tools. We solved the problem by (cx)freezing the attic and borg python tools into binary executables. So, still no python in our environment (reducing attack surface) but the ability to run attic and borg just like they are meant to be run.
- DavideNL 11y agoI use Arq to backup my files (on OS X) to Amazon Glacier, Arq can enforce a budget which i've set to 5€/month. Also the dialog for restoring files is very clear in showing costs vs speed https://www.arqbackup.com/documentation/pages/restoring_from_glacier.html https://www.arqbackup.com/documentation/pages/restoring_from... Haven't had any problems, i'd recommend it.
- Rotten194 11y agoIt's not the worst idea but at the same time it feels almost like data extortion. Like Crassus showing up outside a burning building, "Hey you can get your data back for way above market rate!" It would help if there was a more clear pricing structure.
- ethbro 11y agoIsn't a pricing structure like that kind of the inverse of insurance premiums? You can either pre-ammortize over the storage period, or you can backload at retrieval time. Furthermore, charging at retrieval time also sends a clear message on what type of data this service is to be used for and modifies user behavior.
- thehenster 11y agoMy backup is a RAID 1 NAS which I backup to two external drives once a year. One goes in the shed and the other to my Dad's house. Disappointingly amateurish... but cheap and more secure than any online backup.
- RamenJunkie_ 11y agoWhat about Amazon Cloud Drive? It's like $60/year for unlimited and seems to work just like Dropbox/OneDrive.
- natch 11y agoI think the catch with any unlimited drive solution (other than not being truly unlimited in the fine print) is they typically require you to keep the files on your computer.