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How do escalators accommodate people in wheelchairs? I find it hard to believe they don't have elevators for disabled people.

frobozz 11y ago
They don't. Only certain stations have lifts and not even all of those have level access from lift to platform.
fredoralive 11y ago
Most of the Underground network is inaccessible, note the lack of access symbols on the map. http://content.tfl.gov.uk/standard-tube-map.pdf http://content.tfl.gov.uk/standard-tube-map.pdf Until recently disabled access wasn't really considered. The Docklands Light Railway which started in the late 1980s, and the late 90s Jubilee line extension are the only fully accessible bits on the network.
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Silhouette 11y ago
Access for physically disabled passengers is a significant challenge on the Underground. A lot of stations still really don't have routine platform access for wheelchairs to some or all lines. Even those that do then have the problem of platform and train being at different levels and often having a significant gap between them when the train stops. Stations with suitable access are specifically marked on a lot of the maps for exactly this reason.
Symbiote 11y ago
Holborn station is 100 years old, although it was significantly altered in 1933 when the original lifts were replaced with escalators. Looking at the 3D diagram of the station [1] it seems the original lift shafts didn't go to platform level anyway, and are now used as emergency stairs and a ventilation shaft. Even if it's possible to add lifts, and even if the expense isn't astronomical, it would still only make sense if it could be done for many stations on the line — but most of them are this old, and handling far more passengers than ever anticipated. [1] http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015/07/12/3d-maps-of-every-underground-station-hijklm/ http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015/07/12/3d-maps-of-every-...
lizzard 11y ago
Well they don't. Most of the stations don't have elevators at all. That's why I have to take taxis in London instead of using the underground.

frobozz 11y ago

They don't. Only certain stations have lifts and not even all of those have level access from lift to platform.

fredoralive 11y ago

Most of the Underground network is inaccessible, note the lack of access symbols on the map. http://content.tfl.gov.uk/standard-tube-map.pdf http://content.tfl.gov.uk/standard-tube-map.pdf Until recently disabled access wasn't really considered. The Docklands Light Railway which started in the late 1980s, and the late 90s Jubilee line extension are the only fully accessible bits on the network.

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Silhouette 11y ago

Access for physically disabled passengers is a significant challenge on the Underground. A lot of stations still really don't have routine platform access for wheelchairs to some or all lines. Even those that do then have the problem of platform and train being at different levels and often having a significant gap between them when the train stops. Stations with suitable access are specifically marked on a lot of the maps for exactly this reason.

Symbiote 11y ago

Holborn station is 100 years old, although it was significantly altered in 1933 when the original lifts were replaced with escalators. Looking at the 3D diagram of the station [1] it seems the original lift shafts didn't go to platform level anyway, and are now used as emergency stairs and a ventilation shaft. Even if it's possible to add lifts, and even if the expense isn't astronomical, it would still only make sense if it could be done for many stations on the line — but most of them are this old, and handling far more passengers than ever anticipated. [1] http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015/07/12/3d-maps-of-every-underground-station-hijklm/ http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015/07/12/3d-maps-of-every-...

lizzard 11y ago

Well they don't. Most of the stations don't have elevators at all. That's why I have to take taxis in London instead of using the underground.