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Capacity could be improved even more, without fuelling the obesity epidemic and inconveniencing those of us who prefer to keep moving . All they have to do is m
by frobozz 11y ago
Capacity could be improved even more, without fuelling the obesity epidemic and inconveniencing those of us who prefer to keep moving . All they have to do is make walking compulsory on both sides.
- icebraining 11y agoYes, except the station has no lifts (they were replaced by the escalators), so people who can't climb stares would be unable to use it at all.
- wcummings 11y agoHow do escalators accommodate people in wheelchairs? I find it hard to believe they don't have elevators for disabled people.
- frobozz 11y agoThey don't. Only certain stations have lifts and not even all of those have level access from lift to platform.
- fredoralive 11y agoMost of the Underground network is inaccessible, note the lack of access symbols on the map. http://content.tfl.gov.uk/standard-tube-map.pdf http://content.tfl.gov.uk/standard-tube-map.pdf Until recently disabled access wasn't really considered. The Docklands Light Railway which started in the late 1980s, and the late 90s Jubilee line extension are the only fully accessible bits on the network.
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- Silhouette 11y agoAccess for physically disabled passengers is a significant challenge on the Underground. A lot of stations still really don't have routine platform access for wheelchairs to some or all lines. Even those that do then have the problem of platform and train being at different levels and often having a significant gap between them when the train stops. Stations with suitable access are specifically marked on a lot of the maps for exactly this reason.
- Symbiote 11y agoHolborn station is 100 years old, although it was significantly altered in 1933 when the original lifts were replaced with escalators. Looking at the 3D diagram of the station [1] it seems the original lift shafts didn't go to platform level anyway, and are now used as emergency stairs and a ventilation shaft. Even if it's possible to add lifts, and even if the expense isn't astronomical, it would still only make sense if it could be done for many stations on the line — but most of them are this old, and handling far more passengers than ever anticipated. [1] http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015/07/12/3d-maps-of-every-underground-station-hijklm/ http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015/07/12/3d-maps-of-every-...
- lizzard 11y agoWell they don't. Most of the stations don't have elevators at all. That's why I have to take taxis in London instead of using the underground.
- nkrisc 11y agoI'm an escalator walker myself but not everyone is physically able to walk up or down a very large set of a stairs. Just because someone can not do that doesn't mean we ought to design things to exclude them.
- mercurial 11y agoOf course not. However, since you have several lanes, what about having "walking compulsory" and "standing compulsory" escalators? Assuming enough escalators to get the right distribution, this would ensure maximum throughput and minimum annoyance at peak hours.
- nkrisc 11y agoI think you'd still end up with wasted escalator capacity. If the observations in the article hold true in this scenario, you'd have a mostly empty "walking" escalator right next to a packed "standing" escalator. I think the point is enough people prefer to stand over walking than any dedicated walking space is likely wasted.
- DanBC 11y agoMany stations still have steps so you're free to walk up and down those.