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When Kylo killed Han, how was that an homage to any earlier scene in a SW movie? No character in any Star Wars move had ever killed their parent-Anakin's mom wa

When Kylo killed Han, how was that an homage to any earlier scene in a SW movie? No character in any Star Wars move had ever killed their parent-Anakin's mom was killed by the Sand People, and Vader/Anakin succumbed to injuries sustained by Palpatine's force lightning, that shorted out his circuitry.

probably_wrong 11y ago
First of all, well, spoilers. I think it's a perfect parallel of the scene when Vader kills Obi-Wan: Evil Jedi-turned-bad kills an important figure of his past, while the untrained future Jedi can't do anything but watch how a father-like figure and source of inspiration dies. The fact that it happens while sabotaging the new new Death Star and it involves the new Vader drive the point even more.
- ZanyProgrammer 11y ago
  Kylo brutally murdered Han in cold blood-Obi Wan let himself be cut down as to become a Force Ghost. That's...I suppose same in some respects?
tgb 11y ago
That scene was overt homage to the "I am your father" scene in V. With a number of inversions, of course.
- ZanyProgrammer 11y ago
  Except Luke didn't murder Vader in cold blood.
  - tgb 11y ago
    Yes, but it's still an obvious homage. Father/son meet on narrow path over giant pit, father begs son to join him, son summons the strength to do what his mentors taught, etc. Sure the light / dark sides are swapped but it's very much not subtle.
- mamon 11y ago
  Given the fact, that they basically took "New Hope" script and did the remake, with just some minor details changed, then I can bet that Ep. VIII will be the remake of "Empire Strikes Back", in which we will see a heartbreaking scene where Kylo Ren fights Rey and speaks "I am your brother" :) CHALLENGE: when The Force Awakens gets it's DVD release I challenge you to watch it simultaneously (e.g. in two-monitor setup) with New Hope. I am under impression that some plot parallels can be timed to 20-30 seconds accuracy.

probably_wrong 11y ago

First of all, well, spoilers. I think it's a perfect parallel of the scene when Vader kills Obi-Wan: Evil Jedi-turned-bad kills an important figure of his past, while the untrained future Jedi can't do anything but watch how a father-like figure and source of inspiration dies. The fact that it happens while sabotaging the new new Death Star and it involves the new Vader drive the point even more.

ZanyProgrammer 11y ago
Kylo brutally murdered Han in cold blood-Obi Wan let himself be cut down as to become a Force Ghost. That's...I suppose same in some respects?

tgb 11y ago

That scene was overt homage to the "I am your father" scene in V. With a number of inversions, of course.

ZanyProgrammer 11y ago
Except Luke didn't murder Vader in cold blood.
- tgb 11y ago
  Yes, but it's still an obvious homage. Father/son meet on narrow path over giant pit, father begs son to join him, son summons the strength to do what his mentors taught, etc. Sure the light / dark sides are swapped but it's very much not subtle.
mamon 11y ago
Given the fact, that they basically took "New Hope" script and did the remake, with just some minor details changed, then I can bet that Ep. VIII will be the remake of "Empire Strikes Back", in which we will see a heartbreaking scene where Kylo Ren fights Rey and speaks "I am your brother" :) CHALLENGE: when The Force Awakens gets it's DVD release I challenge you to watch it simultaneously (e.g. in two-monitor setup) with New Hope. I am under impression that some plot parallels can be timed to 20-30 seconds accuracy.