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I think what I didn't like is that while it required lot of training to be Jedi in the past, Rey seemed to have miraculously acquired congenitally. Or did I not
by enlightenedfool 11y ago
I think what I didn't like is that while it required lot of training to be Jedi in the past, Rey seemed to have miraculously acquired congenitally. Or did I not notice/heard how she got trained?
- danmaz74 11y agoThat's exactly what put me off the most in this latest movie. They completely trivialized the Force.
- littlegreenb18 11y agoIf you look at the prequels vs a new hope, the same could be said about Luke. I think the answer there is that Luke is more force sensitive than any Jedi of the past, making his training to get to the same level minimal. And maybe we're seeing the same thing with Rey.
- danmaz74 11y agoWell, just for the sake of fun, I could argue that Luke only confronts one trained Jedi - his father - and that his father never wanted to kill him. Emperor Palpatine, instead, was having an easy time killing him, and was only stopped by Anakin.
- sotojuan 11y agoThey trivialized them in Episode I when they came up with midichlorians.
- Numberwang 11y agoShe sucked it all out of that rod she found in that basement.
- piptastic 11y agoThe current thought is that she had training from Luke as a kid in the school they mention. But then when the school was disbanded they suppressed her memories and left her on that planet. Then when Kylo used the force on her mind, he broke loose the training.
- msabalau 11y agoI'm not certain we have evidence that training is necessary to use the Force, it may be mostly intended to prevent misuse. The eight year old rugrat in the first prequel was quite remarkable without any training. We have new evil force users, despite the requisite "always being two, a master and an apprentice" both dying at Endor. Luke spent a trivial amount of time training with Yoda and Kenobi, most of which was spent convincing the farmboy that it was a simple matter of "just doing" the impossible. As far as we know, the rigors of Jedi training in the Old Republic were intended to prevent people from misusing "what comes naturally" and falling to the dark side. That Luke, who didn't benefit from that training, had students who fell to become "Knights of Ren" reinforces that line of thinking. If we don't know what the training is for, we can't judge if/how Rey is remarkable compared to other Force users. Regardless, given how the movie ends, it seems likely that we'll have illumination on these questions.
- InclinedPlane 11y agoYeah, when she single handedly destroyed starkiller base after very limited training that was just unbelievable. Wait, I must be thinking of a different film, nevermind.