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That's a rather naive way of looking at the outcome. For one, do you really think a someone with the training, experience, and exposure violence of a cop could

That's a rather naive way of looking at the outcome. For one, do you really think a someone with the training, experience, and exposure violence of a cop could be outmatched by you? Second, the statement above didn't say much about requiring a warrant to take people's property - how do you get to USA v2, where that law is in place? Do you shoot enough cops, so they would change the law? What kind of wild-west mentality dwells around there, anyway? How about writing a petition? How about sending (e)mails to your congressmen, or whatever people with that kind of authority you have in US?

Grishnakh 11y ago
>For one, do you really think a someone with the training, experience, and exposure violence of a cop could be outmatched by you? Sure, why not? Most cops don't train that much with their weapons, and there's a bunch of crazy rednecks out there who train constantly with various firearms. I'll put my money on the gun nuts against the cops. Check out some YouTube videos by guys at pistol ranges. Also, cops only train at standard ranges, where you stand still and shoot at a non-moving target, and don't generally do combat training. Face it, cops aren't soldiers; they're just thugs with guns, and most are about as skilled with guns as your average ghetto thug.
- timonovici 11y ago
  I'm a pretty fit guy, but I'm sure the recoil of a gun could break my wrist (well, maybe a desert eagle, I was pretty good with a kalshnikov on my military trainig). I spend more time typing on a keyboard than on a shooting range (which is kind of expected, i'm a programmer). I doubt you can apply such logic as a large scale solution. Do we begin introducing shooting classes in high school, to protect all our citizens? As for your bet - the paradigm would shift from bullying all people to bullying frail people and avoid rednecks, as far as the violent cops go. This would hardly solve the problem.
  - Grishnakh 11y ago
    Break your wrist? WTF are you talking about? Have you ever even shot a pistol? It isn't like shooting a 12-gauge shotgun. Women with small hands shoot pistols all the time. Most cops only train with their pistols once or twice a year.
    - timonovici 11y ago
      I've only shot a small caliber pistol. Leaving poetic derailments aside, my point is - A: the solution doesn't scale B: it will lead to further discrimination, only aggravating the problem

Grishnakh 11y ago

>For one, do you really think a someone with the training, experience, and exposure violence of a cop could be outmatched by you? Sure, why not? Most cops don't train that much with their weapons, and there's a bunch of crazy rednecks out there who train constantly with various firearms. I'll put my money on the gun nuts against the cops. Check out some YouTube videos by guys at pistol ranges. Also, cops only train at standard ranges, where you stand still and shoot at a non-moving target, and don't generally do combat training. Face it, cops aren't soldiers; they're just thugs with guns, and most are about as skilled with guns as your average ghetto thug.

timonovici 11y ago
I'm a pretty fit guy, but I'm sure the recoil of a gun could break my wrist (well, maybe a desert eagle, I was pretty good with a kalshnikov on my military trainig). I spend more time typing on a keyboard than on a shooting range (which is kind of expected, i'm a programmer). I doubt you can apply such logic as a large scale solution. Do we begin introducing shooting classes in high school, to protect all our citizens? As for your bet - the paradigm would shift from bullying all people to bullying frail people and avoid rednecks, as far as the violent cops go. This would hardly solve the problem.
- Grishnakh 11y ago
  Break your wrist? WTF are you talking about? Have you ever even shot a pistol? It isn't like shooting a 12-gauge shotgun. Women with small hands shoot pistols all the time. Most cops only train with their pistols once or twice a year.
  - timonovici 11y ago
    I've only shot a small caliber pistol. Leaving poetic derailments aside, my point is - A: the solution doesn't scale B: it will lead to further discrimination, only aggravating the problem