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That way lies pain, we have to cross that bridge as we get there which we currently are already on; hence the structural unemployment. Self driving cars are go

That way lies pain, we have to cross that bridge as we get there which we currently are already on; hence the structural unemployment. Self driving cars are going to cause mass unemployment, we're already getting there.

vinceguidry 11y ago
I'll believe it when I see it.
- gnaritas 11y ago
  Basic income is a hot topic because forward thinking people who see what's going on in the world right now already see it. You say lets cross that bridge when we get there; that's the point, we're there, you just aren't looking very hard.
  - vinceguidry 11y ago
    It's a hot topic on HN and in a few policy circles. In the grand scheme of things, it's a really small issue, far behind, say, gun control or national security.
    - gnaritas 11y ago
      The topic of this thread is that a "country" is experimenting with it, that's more than a little interest. It's a small issue in America, for now, for sure; that will change as unemployment creeps up with every new technology hitting the market, cars will start it.
      - vinceguidry 11y ago
        There are 196 countries in the world, give or take a few. The US is at the very tip of economic advancement of all 196. That we would care so much about one's experiments is really quite silly. To make a comparison, Obama cares a little bit about what strategy Apple is taking, but he's got much bigger things on his plate.
    - analyst74 11y ago
      Plenty of people worry about not being able to find a job, that's why there is so much talk about unemployment, and why politicians always come up with programs and policies to stimulate job growth. It's even more common if you count people who hate their jobs. Whether we've found a solution to that problem, is up to debate. But the problem of allowing everyone to have basic security is real.
  - flubert 11y ago
    Haven't people been saying this since about 1848?
    - gnaritas 11y ago
      No, they haven't; we're talking about AI here, not industrialization, they were talking about a different problem back then. The two are not comparable, industrialization just pushes humans to do different kinds of labor, AI eliminates human labor, vastly different problem.
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vinceguidry 11y ago

I'll believe it when I see it.

gnaritas 11y ago
Basic income is a hot topic because forward thinking people who see what's going on in the world right now already see it. You say lets cross that bridge when we get there; that's the point, we're there, you just aren't looking very hard.
- vinceguidry 11y ago
  It's a hot topic on HN and in a few policy circles. In the grand scheme of things, it's a really small issue, far behind, say, gun control or national security.
  - gnaritas 11y ago
    The topic of this thread is that a "country" is experimenting with it, that's more than a little interest. It's a small issue in America, for now, for sure; that will change as unemployment creeps up with every new technology hitting the market, cars will start it.
    - vinceguidry 11y ago
      There are 196 countries in the world, give or take a few. The US is at the very tip of economic advancement of all 196. That we would care so much about one's experiments is really quite silly. To make a comparison, Obama cares a little bit about what strategy Apple is taking, but he's got much bigger things on his plate.
  - analyst74 11y ago
    Plenty of people worry about not being able to find a job, that's why there is so much talk about unemployment, and why politicians always come up with programs and policies to stimulate job growth. It's even more common if you count people who hate their jobs. Whether we've found a solution to that problem, is up to debate. But the problem of allowing everyone to have basic security is real.
- flubert 11y ago
  Haven't people been saying this since about 1848?
  - gnaritas 11y ago
    No, they haven't; we're talking about AI here, not industrialization, they were talking about a different problem back then. The two are not comparable, industrialization just pushes humans to do different kinds of labor, AI eliminates human labor, vastly different problem.
    - deleted 11y ago
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