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>If you're an average American who works 50h a week,50 weeks out of the year Not to be pedantic (but im going to anyway), the average full time worker only wor

>If you're an average American who works 50h a week,50 weeks out of the year Not to be pedantic (but im going to anyway), the average full time worker only works 1700 hours a year. Not 2500.

aianus 11y ago
Where did you see that? At 8 hours a weekday, that's ~47.5 days off a year. Doesn't sound like the average American full-time worker to me. edit: s/workday/weekday/
- pessimizer 11y ago
  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=average+annual+hours+worked https://duckduckgo.com/?q=average+annual+hours+worked
dalke 11y ago
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t18.htm http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t18.htm - " Average weekly hours and overtime of all employees on private nonfarm payrolls by industry sector, seasonally adjusted" says it's about 34.5 hours per week. Assuming 2 weeks vacation, 34.5 * 50 = 1725 hours, which is about what you said. However, that's all workers, including part-time. You said 'average full time worker'. From the 2014 Gallup poll at http://www.gallup.com/poll/175286/hour-workweek-actually-longer-seven-hours.aspx http://www.gallup.com/poll/175286/hour-workweek-actually-lon... : > Adults employed full time in the U.S. report working an average of 47 hours per week, almost a full workday longer than what a standard five-day, 9-to-5 schedule entails. In fact, half of all full-time workers indicate they typically work more than 40 hours, and nearly four in 10 say they work at least 50 hours.
- pc86 11y ago
  Including PT workers is going to skew the numbers quite a bit. Most PT workers will not have paid time off, so if you're part-time you're likely to work 51 or 52 weeks unless you are employed seasonally. And 34.5 hours may be the mean, but most workers are either going to be full-time 40+ hr/week or substantially less than that. Most PT job ads I've seen are for 10, 15, or 20 hours of work a week. 30 is very high, so the vast majority of workers are not going to work any close approximation of 34.5 hours a week. Most of the sources I can find online are either using the "any type of worker" number of 1750-1800 hrs/yr, or 2k+ for FT only (which is approximately 50 wks/yr).
  - dalke 11y ago
    The BLS gives a further breakdown of part-time (defined as 1-34 hours) at http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t08.htm http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t08.htm . What is your goal here? I think you agree with me that "Not to be pedantic .. the average full time worker only works 1700 hours a year" is actually incorrect, yes? Are you trying to judge the accuracy of "an average American who works 50h a week,50 weeks out of the year"? If so, the second link I gave, to the Gallup poll, addresses that somewhat (see http://www.gallup.com/poll/175286/hour-workweek-actually-longer-seven-hours.aspx http://www.gallup.com/poll/175286/hour-workweek-actually-lon... ). The question is "in a typical week, how may hours do you work?" Employed full-time said 46.7 hours, and employed part-time said 25.9 hours. Further, "Forty-three percent of U.S. adults in the August 2014 survey tell Gallup they are employed full time, down from about 50% in the Work and Education polls conducted each August before the 2007-2009 recession. Meanwhile, the percentage who work part time has consistently hovered near 9%." I figure that as: >>> (46.7*0.43 + 25.9*0.09) / (0.43 + 0.09) 43.099999999999994 so the average working American works 43+ hours per week. Certainly not as extreme as 50 hours per week, but then again, as you point out, there's a skew to the numbers; and "average" could mean mean, or median, or even mode. How do PT ads for "10, 15, or 20 hours of work a week" add up to that much time? I suspect that many part-time employees have multiple part-time jobs. It's also true that people may lie to Gallup pollsters.

>If you're an average American who works 50h a week,50 weeks out of the year Not to be pedantic (but im going to anyway), the average full time worker only works 1700 hours a year. Not 2500.

aianus 11y ago

Where did you see that? At 8 hours a weekday, that's ~47.5 days off a year. Doesn't sound like the average American full-time worker to me. edit: s/workday/weekday/

pessimizer 11y ago
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=average+annual+hours+worked https://duckduckgo.com/?q=average+annual+hours+worked

dalke 11y ago

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t18.htm http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t18.htm - " Average weekly hours and overtime of all employees on private nonfarm payrolls by industry sector, seasonally adjusted" says it's about 34.5 hours per week. Assuming 2 weeks vacation, 34.5 * 50 = 1725 hours, which is about what you said. However, that's all workers, including part-time. You said 'average full time worker'. From the 2014 Gallup poll at http://www.gallup.com/poll/175286/hour-workweek-actually-longer-seven-hours.aspx http://www.gallup.com/poll/175286/hour-workweek-actually-lon... : > Adults employed full time in the U.S. report working an average of 47 hours per week, almost a full workday longer than what a standard five-day, 9-to-5 schedule entails. In fact, half of all full-time workers indicate they typically work more than 40 hours, and nearly four in 10 say they work at least 50 hours.

pc86 11y ago
Including PT workers is going to skew the numbers quite a bit. Most PT workers will not have paid time off, so if you're part-time you're likely to work 51 or 52 weeks unless you are employed seasonally. And 34.5 hours may be the mean, but most workers are either going to be full-time 40+ hr/week or substantially less than that. Most PT job ads I've seen are for 10, 15, or 20 hours of work a week. 30 is very high, so the vast majority of workers are not going to work any close approximation of 34.5 hours a week. Most of the sources I can find online are either using the "any type of worker" number of 1750-1800 hrs/yr, or 2k+ for FT only (which is approximately 50 wks/yr).
- dalke 11y ago
  The BLS gives a further breakdown of part-time (defined as 1-34 hours) at http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t08.htm http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t08.htm . What is your goal here? I think you agree with me that "Not to be pedantic .. the average full time worker only works 1700 hours a year" is actually incorrect, yes? Are you trying to judge the accuracy of "an average American who works 50h a week,50 weeks out of the year"? If so, the second link I gave, to the Gallup poll, addresses that somewhat (see http://www.gallup.com/poll/175286/hour-workweek-actually-longer-seven-hours.aspx http://www.gallup.com/poll/175286/hour-workweek-actually-lon... ). The question is "in a typical week, how may hours do you work?" Employed full-time said 46.7 hours, and employed part-time said 25.9 hours. Further, "Forty-three percent of U.S. adults in the August 2014 survey tell Gallup they are employed full time, down from about 50% in the Work and Education polls conducted each August before the 2007-2009 recession. Meanwhile, the percentage who work part time has consistently hovered near 9%." I figure that as: >>> (46.7*0.43 + 25.9*0.09) / (0.43 + 0.09) 43.099999999999994 so the average working American works 43+ hours per week. Certainly not as extreme as 50 hours per week, but then again, as you point out, there's a skew to the numbers; and "average" could mean mean, or median, or even mode. How do PT ads for "10, 15, or 20 hours of work a week" add up to that much time? I suspect that many part-time employees have multiple part-time jobs. It's also true that people may lie to Gallup pollsters.