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> Checking in is definitely pretty dead - but the personal value of Foursquare for me is that they track where I go without any input from me. You can view your

by adevine 11y ago

> Checking in is definitely pretty dead - but the personal value of Foursquare for me is that they track where I go without any input from me. You can view your "location history" in the app, and for me it's ~90% accurate, and this data can be used to improve recommendations. Not sure about iOS, but every Android device can do this by default: https://www.google.com/maps/timeline https://www.google.com/maps/timeline.

potatolicious 11y ago
Foursquare's version of this is much more powerful, and IMO one of the actually valuable things they've created. I live/work/play in Manhattan where the density of businesses is extremely high, but even here Foursquare is able to tell the difference between the bar on the ground floor vs. a restaurant in the basement of the same building. The level of specificity they've been able to achieve is pretty spectacular. So it's not just a history of GPS coordinates or semi-educated guesses about which places you've been, it's a 90%+ accuracy list of actual establishments you've visited. That's pretty great. Looking at the Google page 6 of the last 10 places it guesses I've been are off the mark - most are just places I've walked past in the last day or two, and Foursquare almost never erroneously picks those up.
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- roymurdock 11y ago
  What do you do with that data? If it's just used for tailoring recommendations, wouldn't it make more sense/be less invasive for the app to ask you for your top 5 restaurants, coffee shops, etc. You may go places you don't enjoy and never go back, but those would still end up factored into your recommendations with Foursquare.
  - potatolicious 11y ago
    The invasiveness is definitely a concern - but in my experience things that quiz you on preferences are rarely actually accurate. Honestly I'm not normally so liberal with sharing my location data, knowing actual people who work there probably tilted this in their favor. I'm not an expert in recommendation systems or anything, but just anecdotally it seems like the amount of real observed data needed to make actually accurate recommendations is pretty high, beyond the abilities of a short intro quiz. Though having experience building apps one concern is self-reporting vs. observation. Foursquare knows every place I go, not just the ones that deserve a pic on Facebook or a checkin. The problem with asking users for their top restaurants is that the responses you get will be more aspirational than real, and reflect who the user wants to be rather than their actual preferences. > " but those would still end up factored into your recommendations with Foursquare" On the history page you can mark places as "not liked", presumably this lessens or removes the impact of it. Definitely still some user interaction required - but it's IMO still a lot better than manually checking in, or using a completely unintelligent system.

by adevine 11y ago

potatolicious 11y ago

Foursquare's version of this is much more powerful, and IMO one of the actually valuable things they've created. I live/work/play in Manhattan where the density of businesses is extremely high, but even here Foursquare is able to tell the difference between the bar on the ground floor vs. a restaurant in the basement of the same building. The level of specificity they've been able to achieve is pretty spectacular. So it's not just a history of GPS coordinates or semi-educated guesses about which places you've been, it's a 90%+ accuracy list of actual establishments you've visited. That's pretty great. Looking at the Google page 6 of the last 10 places it guesses I've been are off the mark - most are just places I've walked past in the last day or two, and Foursquare almost never erroneously picks those up.

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roymurdock 11y ago
What do you do with that data? If it's just used for tailoring recommendations, wouldn't it make more sense/be less invasive for the app to ask you for your top 5 restaurants, coffee shops, etc. You may go places you don't enjoy and never go back, but those would still end up factored into your recommendations with Foursquare.
- potatolicious 11y ago
  The invasiveness is definitely a concern - but in my experience things that quiz you on preferences are rarely actually accurate. Honestly I'm not normally so liberal with sharing my location data, knowing actual people who work there probably tilted this in their favor. I'm not an expert in recommendation systems or anything, but just anecdotally it seems like the amount of real observed data needed to make actually accurate recommendations is pretty high, beyond the abilities of a short intro quiz. Though having experience building apps one concern is self-reporting vs. observation. Foursquare knows every place I go, not just the ones that deserve a pic on Facebook or a checkin. The problem with asking users for their top restaurants is that the responses you get will be more aspirational than real, and reflect who the user wants to be rather than their actual preferences. > " but those would still end up factored into your recommendations with Foursquare" On the history page you can mark places as "not liked", presumably this lessens or removes the impact of it. Definitely still some user interaction required - but it's IMO still a lot better than manually checking in, or using a completely unintelligent system.