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I notice that, generally, the same political groups who want to eliminate race in admissions also want to stop immigration from Mexico and Syria, and to make it
by hackuser 11y ago
I notice that, generally, the same political groups who want to eliminate race in admissions also want to stop immigration from Mexico and Syria, and to make it more difficult for non-white people to vote.
They always frame it in terms of 'fairness', but I see another pattern. Does anyone really believe they are motivated by fairness? There are people facing far more unfairness in the world and in the U.S. than wealthy white and Asian college applicants - I don't see these groups paying much attention to them.
Perhaps what outrages people about Trump is that he says what many others in his party say, but doesn't use the dog-whistle[1] coded bulls*t words to cover it up.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics
- kelukelugames 11y agoThe HN crowd hates affirmative action and believe that tech is meritocratic. People don't want to believe discrimination exists.
- dang 11y agoPlease don't do this here.
- kelukelugames 11y agoOkay, I will rephrase it.
- dang 11y agoInvoking a generalization about "the HN crowd" as a rhetorical device in an argument isn't really legit. You're as much part of that "crowd" as anyone, and such generalizations are mostly just bias (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10889615 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10889615), which explains why the comments that diss the community routinely contradict each other.
- kelukelugames 11y agoGender and race issues frequently get flagged to death. Doesn't that take a collective? For example, elephantinthevalley got killed and reposted multiple times.
- dang 11y agoOf course, but there are multiple collectives. On hot divisive issues, both sides routinely get flagged. Neither side is "the HN community", though each sees the other that way. That's not objective; it's a cognitive bias, and it leads people to get angrier at each other and at the community because they feel the community is against them. In reality, on most issues where society is divided, HN is also divided, with a few exceptions (like mass surveillance) where there's a fairly clear skew.