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The thing is, if a piece of IP is not available in a country, and given the fact that it might be worthless by next season, is distributing that IP for free for

by arihant 11y ago

The thing is, if a piece of IP is not available in a country, and given the fact that it might be worthless by next season, is distributing that IP for free for that year in the country a bad karma? If anything, when the production house does license out in that country, they can run the current season directly as population has already watched earlier ones. If anything, this should push production houses to work better with rights distribution. In India, that's already happening with "Premier" channels which run seasons alongside US counterparts. For shows that appear on now Premier channels, I have not torrented a single one. I am also sure that if not for rampant torrenting, this would have never happened. Internet is a great leveller. Take a deep breath, let it in. By the time we all have gray hair, this will be long sorted out. You can't lock down IP by country in 2016. If you built a system that loses money if it leaks internationally, it's your fault. Next, try to build a business model that has more chances of survival than chances of sand retaining in your fist. The real problem is that people still expect a century old business model to work. If it doesn't, they lose their minds. If a tree falls in another part of the world, and nobody saw it, nobody visited that forest for 10 years, nobody wanted to use that wood, did it really fall? Did American oak planters lose money because of it?

tajen 11y ago
People often ask me: "If there were no copyright law, how would studios earn money?" What artists and moviemakers could do is, sell the right to see contents before others. Assuming that DRM is cracked and leaked after some time and will inevitably fall into the "public domain", users would not buy "a song" or "a movie", but the lifestyle of watching it directly out from the factory, while others would have to wait until it's cracked. When the season 2, 3 and 4 of Arrow aren't available in Europe, we know that Netflix isn't selling the lifestyle of being up-to-date with fashion.
- Suncho 11y ago
  People often ask me: "If there were no copyright law, how would studios earn money?" They'd work on commission. They'd work on crowd-funded commission. If you want a movie made, you pay for it yourself. If you want to watch a movie that's already been made, why shouldn't that be free? The work has already been done and paid for.
  - waterlesscloud 11y ago
    Neat. Does that apply to cars and houses and food as well? The work has already been done and paid for, after all.
    - kuschku 11y ago
      Indeed. Once the work has been paid for, you can usually copy your car as much as you want. You can also use your car as many times as you want.
    - Karunamon 11y ago
      Cars and houses and food are physical goods (and in at least two of your examples, fungible and/or life-sustaining) with distribution costs, intrinsic value, and scarcity. Digital files have none of these.
      - waterlesscloud 11y ago
        That's not the point under discussion. The rationalization here was that the work was already done, so why shouldn't it be free? It's a silly rationalization and I'm pointing that out.
        Karunamon 11y ago
        The rationalization only works on goods that meet the criterion I just described.
        bmelton 11y ago
        Then it doesn't work for pirated movies, which has distribution costs associated. You'll need to add yet another caveat to your original claim to make it work.
        Karunamon 11y ago
        Once again, I was speaking of digital content. The "distribution cost" of a 600-4000MB file is effectively nil.
vidbina 11y ago
> Internet is a great leveller I hope that the increased connectivity of our world will have a profound impact on the legal constructs utilised by parties to secure earnings. As you, I also hope that we will have worked through the issues by the time I'm old, but history tells me that profit is a great motivator to keep archaic constructs intact. Today's world is filled with business models that don't fit our somewhat more globalised reality. The money talks.

by arihant 11y ago

tajen 11y ago

People often ask me: "If there were no copyright law, how would studios earn money?" What artists and moviemakers could do is, sell the right to see contents before others. Assuming that DRM is cracked and leaked after some time and will inevitably fall into the "public domain", users would not buy "a song" or "a movie", but the lifestyle of watching it directly out from the factory, while others would have to wait until it's cracked. When the season 2, 3 and 4 of Arrow aren't available in Europe, we know that Netflix isn't selling the lifestyle of being up-to-date with fashion.

Suncho 11y ago
People often ask me: "If there were no copyright law, how would studios earn money?" They'd work on commission. They'd work on crowd-funded commission. If you want a movie made, you pay for it yourself. If you want to watch a movie that's already been made, why shouldn't that be free? The work has already been done and paid for.
- waterlesscloud 11y ago
  Neat. Does that apply to cars and houses and food as well? The work has already been done and paid for, after all.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Indeed. Once the work has been paid for, you can usually copy your car as much as you want. You can also use your car as many times as you want.
  - Karunamon 11y ago
    Cars and houses and food are physical goods (and in at least two of your examples, fungible and/or life-sustaining) with distribution costs, intrinsic value, and scarcity. Digital files have none of these.
    - waterlesscloud 11y ago
      That's not the point under discussion. The rationalization here was that the work was already done, so why shouldn't it be free? It's a silly rationalization and I'm pointing that out.
      - Karunamon 11y ago
        The rationalization only works on goods that meet the criterion I just described.
        bmelton 11y ago
        Then it doesn't work for pirated movies, which has distribution costs associated. You'll need to add yet another caveat to your original claim to make it work.
        Karunamon 11y ago
        Once again, I was speaking of digital content. The "distribution cost" of a 600-4000MB file is effectively nil.

vidbina 11y ago

> Internet is a great leveller I hope that the increased connectivity of our world will have a profound impact on the legal constructs utilised by parties to secure earnings. As you, I also hope that we will have worked through the issues by the time I'm old, but history tells me that profit is a great motivator to keep archaic constructs intact. Today's world is filled with business models that don't fit our somewhat more globalised reality. The money talks.