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Nah, if you torrent you show there's a market for these kinds of shows. The networks probably do track those numbers in order to decide where to license their c

by Grue3 11y ago

Nah, if you torrent you show there's a market for these kinds of shows. The networks probably do track those numbers in order to decide where to license their content. By torrenting unavailable content you're showing there's a demand for this content.

rhino369 11y ago
Unavailable period or unavailable on netflix? I understand the moral argument for torrenting unavailable content. But more and more I hear people say they feel justified pirating anything not on netlflix. As if netflix is supposed to buy you a pass to all content ever made.
- admax88q 11y ago
  It certainly demonstrates demand for the content to be provided via a better business model or at least at a more reasonable cost. Blu-rays are expensive, less portable, and require specialized hardware.
  - rhino369 11y ago
    Of course there is demand for all video content for 8 or 10 dollars a month. But it's not a reasonable price point. Neflix is cheap because it's got a limited catalog and the catalog is mostly old content. Do other countries really not have a local version of amazon instant or itunes?
- NotOscarWilde 11y ago
  > But more and more I hear people say they feel justified pirating anything not on netflix As somebody from a "2nd world & irrelevant" country (Czech Republic, we are in the EU), the situation is: * Netflix launched here with the global launch, not even Netflix' own shows are fully on Netflix, because Netflix licensed them to the local TV channels; * Hulu is not available outside the US (it says so when I go there); * Amazon TV, iTunes do not operate here; * there are local "TV streaming" competitors but they usually only have Czech (i.e. bad) TV shows. I believe this is a situation common in many of the countries where Netflix recently launched -- and that was the complaint that started this thread.
  - Symbiote 11y ago
    The single EU digital market [1] should go some way to solving this (if the owners want to make it available in the UK/IE then everyone else in the EU can see it too). But I don't know how that will work with licensing to TV channels, which are still mostly national. Improved intra-EU parcel delivery will be great, too. [1] http://ec.europa.eu/priorities/digital-single-market/access/ http://ec.europa.eu/priorities/digital-single-market/access/ (CZ is a middle sized country for the EU. Denmark, Ireland or Croatia are half the size, and there are five countries with <2M people — LT,EE,CY,LU,MT..)
    - izacus 11y ago
      We can sure hope so, but judging by the way how EC rolled over on its back to huge telcos in net neutrality directive I don't have much hope this will pass without content conglomerates breaking it in some way.
  - rhino369 11y ago
    If you can't in good faith find a way to watch the content legally, sure go ahead and pirate it without feeling bad. But my point was an 8 dollar netflix subscription isn't a "all you can eat" pass for content. Yet, people treat it like one. Like somehow content deserves to be pirated if it isn't on netflix.

by Grue3 11y ago

rhino369 11y ago

Unavailable period or unavailable on netflix? I understand the moral argument for torrenting unavailable content. But more and more I hear people say they feel justified pirating anything not on netlflix. As if netflix is supposed to buy you a pass to all content ever made.

admax88q 11y ago
It certainly demonstrates demand for the content to be provided via a better business model or at least at a more reasonable cost. Blu-rays are expensive, less portable, and require specialized hardware.
- rhino369 11y ago
  Of course there is demand for all video content for 8 or 10 dollars a month. But it's not a reasonable price point. Neflix is cheap because it's got a limited catalog and the catalog is mostly old content. Do other countries really not have a local version of amazon instant or itunes?
NotOscarWilde 11y ago
> But more and more I hear people say they feel justified pirating anything not on netflix As somebody from a "2nd world & irrelevant" country (Czech Republic, we are in the EU), the situation is: * Netflix launched here with the global launch, not even Netflix' own shows are fully on Netflix, because Netflix licensed them to the local TV channels; * Hulu is not available outside the US (it says so when I go there); * Amazon TV, iTunes do not operate here; * there are local "TV streaming" competitors but they usually only have Czech (i.e. bad) TV shows. I believe this is a situation common in many of the countries where Netflix recently launched -- and that was the complaint that started this thread.
- Symbiote 11y ago
  The single EU digital market [1] should go some way to solving this (if the owners want to make it available in the UK/IE then everyone else in the EU can see it too). But I don't know how that will work with licensing to TV channels, which are still mostly national. Improved intra-EU parcel delivery will be great, too. [1] http://ec.europa.eu/priorities/digital-single-market/access/ http://ec.europa.eu/priorities/digital-single-market/access/ (CZ is a middle sized country for the EU. Denmark, Ireland or Croatia are half the size, and there are five countries with <2M people — LT,EE,CY,LU,MT..)
  - izacus 11y ago
    We can sure hope so, but judging by the way how EC rolled over on its back to huge telcos in net neutrality directive I don't have much hope this will pass without content conglomerates breaking it in some way.
- rhino369 11y ago
  If you can't in good faith find a way to watch the content legally, sure go ahead and pirate it without feeling bad. But my point was an 8 dollar netflix subscription isn't a "all you can eat" pass for content. Yet, people treat it like one. Like somehow content deserves to be pirated if it isn't on netflix.