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Note that they're sharing this dataset only with *.edu, which is unfortunate for the rest of us. I wish they would allow access to a fraction of the dataset, e.
by rodionos 11y ago
Note that they're sharing this dataset only with *.edu, which is unfortunate for the rest of us. I wish they would allow access to a fraction of the dataset, e.g. 5% of records, for the rest of the community.
- boomzilla 11y agoWould it be suffice with an .edu email, or does one need a formal document from university officials? I tried to click through from the sandbox link, but a Yahoo account is required.
- nolok 11y agoDo you mean to technically get access, or to be legally allowed to use it ? Because for the latter, merely having a .edu isn't enough.
- cinquemb 11y agoIt's probably more complicated than that, because I assume there are places in the world where you can legally ignore someone trying to enforce such claim where they are outside of such jurisdiction.
- Namrog84 11y agoMost places only care that you were a student with active edu. I graduated years ago and I still use the edu without problem. Most things say you need to be a student from university. Which I am/was. Very few places say actively enrolled student. It's a legal gray area in my opinion.
- dexterdog 11y agoMany schools will give alumni edu addresses as well
- rodionos 11y agoI have a lifelong edu address but it's not what they mean of course. My reading is that you have to be an enrolled student or researcher.
- hellameta 11y agoTo clarify from source[1] TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE WEBSCOPE DATA, UNLESS SPECIFIED IN A PARTICULAR DATASET, YOU MUST: Be a faculty member, research employee or student from an accredited university Send the data request from an accredited university .edu or domain name (for international universities) email address UNLESS SPECIFIED IN A PARTICULAR DATASET, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO SHARE DATA WITH: Commercial entities Employees of commercial entities with university appointment Research institutions not affiliated with a research university -- [1] http://webscope.sandbox.yahoo.com/ http://webscope.sandbox.yahoo.com/
- knughit 11y agoSince nowadays universities are run as start-up accelerators with closed source software, the .edu restriction is antiquated and obnoxious
- dave_sullivan 11y agoTo yahoo: that seems like an unbelievably lame restriction. Even aside from commercial entities, there are many many people working to improve machine learning with no university affiliation. You're basically taking something really cool here and shooting yourself in the knee with a shotgun. I hope other companies don't think open data initiatives count if they're not actually open. If you want to keep your data internal and top secret, totally fine, but open data should be available to anyone or it doesn't count. Almost yahoo, almost... Edit: >> I didn't see the word "open" mentioned once in this article... Touché sir. Sentiment still stands: "released to researchers" and "released to the public" should not be different things.
- corp-a 11y agoI didn't see the word "open" mentioned once in this article...
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- mrfusion 11y agoThat really sucks. I hate the whole attitude that you need to be a Ph.D. To do research.
- criley2 11y agoI mean that's what Ph.D's do in most fields, the whole point of getting a Ph.D is so that you can do research in that field. Learning how to write well researched white papers that can withstand peer review. Prior to that, you can do some research as perhaps with a Master's or as a graduate student, but usually you're assisting on a Ph.D's project. The process of getting a Ph.D in many fields is basically the process of learning how to research and report your research. So the idea of limiting high level research tools to those who've proven to be capable of high level research isn't that ridiculous to me. If you want to research for a living and report it, is it so ridiculous to ask that you train traditionally in researching and reporting?
- kingkawn 11y agoYes but then we only find what we've been taught to see for the sake of institutional structure and wonder why life isn't more inspiring.
- ACow_Adonis 11y agoI will only speak for myself and people like me. Many of us have deliberately chosen not to go the Masters/PhD/Academic route because of how broken/backward we believe the academic system to be, and that we can have better access to both research, learnings, materials, methods, and just a general quality of life, both materially and intellectually, outside of it. That doesn't mean we're not interested in, or aren't doing, research. Indeed, we believe we're often doing it better. These edu/PhD requirements are incredibly frustrating, and there's no technical or intellectual reason they should exist: Only social, political and economic reasons. I know you did not mean any offence by posting your comment, and i do not mean any by mine, but to answer your question: "If you want to research for a living and report it, is it so ridiculous to ask that you train traditionally in researching and reporting?" Yes, yes it is. Research should not be for a closed shop of inward looking, often archaic and relatively backward academic institutions.
- Estragon 11y agoI imagine you'll be able to torrent it fairly soon.