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Everyone who dies has probably used a smart phone or the internet so lets start the avalanche!
by lionize 11y ago
Everyone who dies has probably used a smart phone or the internet so lets start the avalanche!
- mrits 11y agoYour ignorant statement is not even accurate.
- tempodox 11y agoWell, everyone who has ever lived has also died.
- philwelch 11y agoNot me!
- logfromblammo 11y agoYou have that backwards. Everyone who has ever died had previously lived. Besides that, all people still currently living have not died.
- coldtea 11y ago>You have that backwards. Parent didn't put it in time terms. Just noted that everyone who ever lived, has also died ("A && B", as opposed to "A then B"). >Besides that, all people still currently living have not died. Yes, though one could say that those people are still "living", not yet in a state having "lived" (past tense), as parent put it.
- mejari 11y agoI've lived. I'm currently living, but I used to, too.
- coldtea 11y agoYou haven't "lived" (period) until you're dead, and it's settled. You might have e.g. "lived in London" (if you don't know, so it's a settled thing and a specific period of your life). Or "I've lived in poverty", etc. But "I've lived", period, without such a qualifier is not that common or useful when one is still alive.
- logfromblammo 11y agoIf you truly want to argue that the verb tense chosen means "Everyone who ever lived [and then died] has died," then the statement becomes a tautology: "Everyone who has died has died."
- coldtea 11y agoAll true equivalency statements are tautologies -- since both sides "resolve" to the same thing. That doesn't mean they are useless. In this case, though, it's not "Everyone who has died has died", but "To have lived means you're dead". The same way that "to be a corpse means that you've died". That's not a tautology (it's not "to be a corpse means you're a corpse"), just informs us of a prerequisite for the other thing to happen.
- logfromblammo 11y agoI think that you lack consensus on the meaning that can be drawn from use of the past tense. Either way, the statement as given does not support the unstated implication that everyone now living will eventually die.
- sp332 11y agoWell there are still >7 billion people that don't fit your categorization, which means only 93% of people who have lived have died. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-living-outnumber-dead/ http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-li...
- petejansson 11y agoThe article seems to say that the estimate of all who have lived is about 106 billion, so the number of currently-alive is estimated at about 6% of those who have ever lived. Arthur C. Clarke wrote "Behind every man now alive stand thirty ghosts, for that is the ratio by which the dead outnumber the living." I wondered if that ratio needed updating. It does, but not, it seems, in the direction I expected.
- sp332 11y agoThe article is from 2007; the earth's population has increased to 7 billion now.
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