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>When Joyent decided they didn't want to embrace anymore, the community took the extinguisher out of their hands Joyent wound up embracing io.js, and Node.js i

by krisdol 11y ago

>When Joyent decided they didn't want to embrace anymore, the community took the extinguisher out of their hands Joyent wound up embracing io.js, and Node.js is moving at a very fast pace now while maintaining LTS branches in parallel. It's a very well managed project, in my opinion. Aside, how come anything remotely questioning of Microsoft when there's an announcement is met with downvotes?

_greim_ 11y ago
> how come anything remotely questioning of Microsoft when there's an announcement is met with downvotes? Selection effects! Posts about Microsoft doing something cool will attract a readership in which Microsoft fandom is over-represented, compared to the average readership of HN.
- nilliams 11y ago
  I don't agree with your characterisation. GP was complaining about downvotes to anti-MS comments, and that's nothing to do with 'attracting a readership'. More like the specific criticism of Microsoft demonstrated in this thread so far is the same tired old crap and not relevant to the actual topic.
  - annnnd 11y ago
    ...that, or "PR bots" at work. I guess I'll see by the downvotes this comment receives. ;)
untog 11y ago
Aside, how come anything remotely questioning of Microsoft when there's an announcement is met with downvotes? I don't think it is. However, I'll downvote criticism that isn't actually based on anything other than "well, you know, it's Microsoft so they won't", "remember extend, embrace, extinguish?" or "M$", etc. etc. Criticism with actual backing is fine.
- deleted 11y ago
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alexc05 11y ago
I've opened a few issues and sent a some pull requests along to various MS projects (couple of bits shipped). I've found them generally to be quite supportive and encouraging in the vast majority of places. I've been un-acknowledged on a couple and have felt un-welcome in only one instance. (In that one case I'm pretty sure the words we were using were all English, but I'm not sure we had the same meaning... I walked away from that one feeling dumber than where I started.) All said and done, I have been wildly pleased with my experiences as a Microsoft community contributor on github... Though would say that there is some variability as you cross teams. As you'd expect from people.
- yati 11y ago
  > In that one case I'm pretty sure the words we were using were all English, but I'm not sure we had the same meaning I do not get what you mean here, are you willing to elaborate a bit? :)
  - alexc05 11y ago
    Sorry I was trying to be too clever. I mean that the things that they were saying were so complex that I was completely unable to understand a single word of it. That's a bit over stated too, but the short version is that they confused me to the point that I didn't think I'd be able to make a valuable contribution to the project. To break down my phrasing above, "I know you're speaking English, but I don't know what you're saying" is a phrase I've heard used but I think it isn't common. Hope that helps. Basically it's a bad joke :)
    - yati 11y ago
      Haha, okay, now I see what you mean :)

by krisdol 11y ago

_greim_ 11y ago

> how come anything remotely questioning of Microsoft when there's an announcement is met with downvotes? Selection effects! Posts about Microsoft doing something cool will attract a readership in which Microsoft fandom is over-represented, compared to the average readership of HN.

nilliams 11y ago
I don't agree with your characterisation. GP was complaining about downvotes to anti-MS comments, and that's nothing to do with 'attracting a readership'. More like the specific criticism of Microsoft demonstrated in this thread so far is the same tired old crap and not relevant to the actual topic.
- annnnd 11y ago
  ...that, or "PR bots" at work. I guess I'll see by the downvotes this comment receives. ;)

untog 11y ago

Aside, how come anything remotely questioning of Microsoft when there's an announcement is met with downvotes? I don't think it is. However, I'll downvote criticism that isn't actually based on anything other than "well, you know, it's Microsoft so they won't", "remember extend, embrace, extinguish?" or "M$", etc. etc. Criticism with actual backing is fine.

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alexc05 11y ago

I've opened a few issues and sent a some pull requests along to various MS projects (couple of bits shipped). I've found them generally to be quite supportive and encouraging in the vast majority of places. I've been un-acknowledged on a couple and have felt un-welcome in only one instance. (In that one case I'm pretty sure the words we were using were all English, but I'm not sure we had the same meaning... I walked away from that one feeling dumber than where I started.) All said and done, I have been wildly pleased with my experiences as a Microsoft community contributor on github... Though would say that there is some variability as you cross teams. As you'd expect from people.

yati 11y ago
> In that one case I'm pretty sure the words we were using were all English, but I'm not sure we had the same meaning I do not get what you mean here, are you willing to elaborate a bit? :)
- alexc05 11y ago
  Sorry I was trying to be too clever. I mean that the things that they were saying were so complex that I was completely unable to understand a single word of it. That's a bit over stated too, but the short version is that they confused me to the point that I didn't think I'd be able to make a valuable contribution to the project. To break down my phrasing above, "I know you're speaking English, but I don't know what you're saying" is a phrase I've heard used but I think it isn't common. Hope that helps. Basically it's a bad joke :)
  - yati 11y ago
    Haha, okay, now I see what you mean :)