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>Their open-source friendliness has unfortunately coincided with a decline of their respect for user privacy and choice (Windows 10). As far as I know they giv

by frigg 11y ago

>Their open-source friendliness has unfortunately coincided with a decline of their respect for user privacy and choice (Windows 10). As far as I know they give you the option to opt out of everything. Are they bad even for asking?

magicalist 11y ago
> As far as I know they give you the option to opt out of everything No, they don't, and two seconds of searching will confirm that for you. All many of us are asking is to be able to opt out of it.
McGlockenshire 11y ago
> As far as I know they give you the option to opt out of everything The thing we now know as "telemetry" used to be opt-in, and they hide the opt-out control during initial setup behind a thing that is a link but doesn't look like one. It can still be turned off after installation in the same exact way as the previous versions of Windows (enter "experience" in the Start menu search box), but most won't know that this control exists. All the rest of the things causing people to freak out about privacy are related to Cortana, and the process for turning that feature set on is in-your-face opt-in, where it's clear that you're authorizing data sharing with them.
- magicalist 11y ago
  > It can still be turned off after installation Unless you're running Enterprise or Education (both not available to single users), this is not true.
  - McGlockenshire 11y ago
    Citation, please? I'd imagine it'd be killable via group policy in those cases, wouldn't it?
tareqak 11y ago
You cannot fully opt out of the tracking Microsoft does in Windows 10. The lowest selection I can make is "Basic".
aluhut 11y ago
It's unfortunately not enough. They'll still do it and with the stuff they sneak in every update on win7 its even worse. Here is how a process of enforcing looks like: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10 https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how...
- Someone1234 11y ago
  That guide is for the preview build of Windows 10 that Microsoft themselves said contained additional tracking components. It mostly doesn't apply to retail, and most of it won't work. Plus you'll disable useful functionality with no privacy implications if you follow it.
  - aluhut 11y ago
    I had this in my favorites. It wasn't supposed to be a guide. You may be right about those solutions not working anymore. However the problems are still there. I had to disable several of those telemetry tools in the Task Scheduler just yesterday on my Win7. I'm pretty sure I've done this before. The only thing that changed since the preview build is that there are 3rd party tools to do the job for you...
ascagnel_ 11y ago
They do, but the options aren't reasonable (like the automatic sharing of Wifi AP passwords unless you change the AP's SSID).

by frigg 11y ago

magicalist 11y ago

> As far as I know they give you the option to opt out of everything No, they don't, and two seconds of searching will confirm that for you. All many of us are asking is to be able to opt out of it.

McGlockenshire 11y ago

> As far as I know they give you the option to opt out of everything The thing we now know as "telemetry" used to be opt-in, and they hide the opt-out control during initial setup behind a thing that is a link but doesn't look like one. It can still be turned off after installation in the same exact way as the previous versions of Windows (enter "experience" in the Start menu search box), but most won't know that this control exists. All the rest of the things causing people to freak out about privacy are related to Cortana, and the process for turning that feature set on is in-your-face opt-in, where it's clear that you're authorizing data sharing with them.

magicalist 11y ago
> It can still be turned off after installation Unless you're running Enterprise or Education (both not available to single users), this is not true.
- McGlockenshire 11y ago
  Citation, please? I'd imagine it'd be killable via group policy in those cases, wouldn't it?

tareqak 11y ago

You cannot fully opt out of the tracking Microsoft does in Windows 10. The lowest selection I can make is "Basic".

aluhut 11y ago

It's unfortunately not enough. They'll still do it and with the stuff they sneak in every update on win7 its even worse. Here is how a process of enforcing looks like: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10 https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how...

Someone1234 11y ago
That guide is for the preview build of Windows 10 that Microsoft themselves said contained additional tracking components. It mostly doesn't apply to retail, and most of it won't work. Plus you'll disable useful functionality with no privacy implications if you follow it.
- aluhut 11y ago
  I had this in my favorites. It wasn't supposed to be a guide. You may be right about those solutions not working anymore. However the problems are still there. I had to disable several of those telemetry tools in the Task Scheduler just yesterday on my Win7. I'm pretty sure I've done this before. The only thing that changed since the preview build is that there are 3rd party tools to do the job for you...

ascagnel_ 11y ago

They do, but the options aren't reasonable (like the automatic sharing of Wifi AP passwords unless you change the AP's SSID).