It's the same (or worse?) with Java. OpenJDK 6 and 7 can both be bootstrapped with GCJ, but with JDK 8 you need JDK6. Even GCJ needs a prebuilt jar of ECJ, so

It's the same (or worse?) with Java. OpenJDK 6 and 7 can both be bootstrapped with GCJ, but with JDK 8 you need JDK6. Even GCJ needs a prebuilt jar of ECJ, so there is no way to bootstrap Java without having to trust binaries.