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What kind of awful company would be expending resources doing this?

mtgx 11y ago
Companies like Sony, who want everyone's conversations in one place, so when they inevitably get hacked we can all read those conversations in public.
unethical_ban 11y ago
Every company with a competent information security department. Protip: Never, ever, use company resources (laptops and workstations, potentially even cell phones) for your personal communications. They likely are MITM with their own root CA and can see what you're doing. Reason: It's their device on their network, and it has access to company data. Get a cell phone with a good data plan.
- alkonaut 11y ago
  If I get an email at work hours and see it on my smartphone, I'd probably rather go to gmail on my work computer to reply, than type in a reply on the phone.
  - finnn 11y ago
    That's fine, but don't get all surprised when your work sees it.
- thieving_magpie 11y ago
  Of course they can, doesn't mean they should. For instance, if they're trying to attract talented employees that's a great way to put them off.
  - unethical_ban 11y ago
    Depends on the industry. If a bank doesn't do this, then it's much easier for an employee to send out PII dumps. If your "Github for farmers" startup isn't worried about code commits to the cloud, then no biggie.
    - thieving_magpie 11y ago
      You're right. I had blinders on there about the populace of HN.
- Laaw 11y ago
  Likely?? No, this is paranoid. Sorry, but this isn't happening everywhere.
  - x1798DE 11y ago
    You don't have to be paranoid about it, it's not like they sneak around when they do it. From my experience it's very common.
    - shostack 11y ago
      And if word gets out and employees make it known their company does this, they are liable to face a backlash.
pjc50 11y ago
Companies may be legally required to keep "work" chat logs: http://www.wsj.com/articles/deutsche-bank-didnt-archive-chats-used-by-some-employees-tied-to-libor-probe-1438287685 http://www.wsj.com/articles/deutsche-bank-didnt-archive-chat...

mtgx 11y ago

Companies like Sony, who want everyone's conversations in one place, so when they inevitably get hacked we can all read those conversations in public.

unethical_ban 11y ago

Every company with a competent information security department. Protip: Never, ever, use company resources (laptops and workstations, potentially even cell phones) for your personal communications. They likely are MITM with their own root CA and can see what you're doing. Reason: It's their device on their network, and it has access to company data. Get a cell phone with a good data plan.

alkonaut 11y ago
If I get an email at work hours and see it on my smartphone, I'd probably rather go to gmail on my work computer to reply, than type in a reply on the phone.
- finnn 11y ago
  That's fine, but don't get all surprised when your work sees it.
thieving_magpie 11y ago
Of course they can, doesn't mean they should. For instance, if they're trying to attract talented employees that's a great way to put them off.
- unethical_ban 11y ago
  Depends on the industry. If a bank doesn't do this, then it's much easier for an employee to send out PII dumps. If your "Github for farmers" startup isn't worried about code commits to the cloud, then no biggie.
  - thieving_magpie 11y ago
    You're right. I had blinders on there about the populace of HN.
Laaw 11y ago
Likely?? No, this is paranoid. Sorry, but this isn't happening everywhere.
- x1798DE 11y ago
  You don't have to be paranoid about it, it's not like they sneak around when they do it. From my experience it's very common.
  - shostack 11y ago
    And if word gets out and employees make it known their company does this, they are liable to face a backlash.

pjc50 11y ago

Companies may be legally required to keep "work" chat logs: http://www.wsj.com/articles/deutsche-bank-didnt-archive-chats-used-by-some-employees-tied-to-libor-probe-1438287685 http://www.wsj.com/articles/deutsche-bank-didnt-archive-chat...