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That's how evil things happen. This phenomena is called diffusion of responsibility[0] and lead to some of the most evil actions in human history. 0. https://e
by kbart 11y ago
That's how evil things happen. This phenomena is called diffusion of responsibility[0] and lead to some of the most evil actions in human history.
0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility
- mc32 11y agoDo you think the eff should make moral judgments on its donors and only accept donations from morally acceptable people? Maybe it should be their responsibility to ensure their income only comes from people with whom they are morally compatible. And alternatively donors ensure that principals and associates of the eff are also moral.
- kbart 11y agoSorry, I don't see how that's relevant. EFF does no evil (as far as I'm concerned), but let's hypothetically say, if one day we found out that EFF helps some foreign government to repress their people, sure everyone supporting EFF now should feel morally obligated to stop their funding.
- mc32 11y agoYour interpretation is off. I'm asking, what if some of their donations come from people or governments who are misogynists, racists, tax cheats, etc. Should the eff figure out the "dirtiness" of the moneys they receive as the eff is asking Cisco to eval the morality of one of the sources of their income.
- kbart 11y agoI understand where you are aiming, but getting money through (anonymous) donation and actively promoting and selling products that you know (as can be seen on slideshow) will be used persecute people is not the same. To answer your question, if some shady character donates money to EFF without asking anything in return and using it as PR, I don't see anything wrong with that.
- RobertoG 11y agoThis is not about Cisco receiving money but about Cisco helping to do 'bad things'.
- mc32 11y agoIs there material difference between actively helping and passively helping? If the Cisco product is but one in the chain which enables them to carry out morally disagreeable deeds, why choose Cisco out of the bunch? Do we go after OSS devs, MS, Apple, etc? All these products are on the chain of enablement.
- coldtea 11y ago>That's how evil things happen. This phenomena is called diffusion of responsibility[0] and lead to some of the most evil actions in human history. Another way evil happens, even more prevalent today, is meddling and invasion on sovereign countries. The good ole "democracy bringing" routine...
- icebraining 11y agoWhat does this have to do with Cisco?