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Linux unfortunately has been getting worse in a lot of ways, as the old-timers get too old/busy to bother with it, and the hipsters take over. A prime example

Linux unfortunately has been getting worse in a lot of ways, as the old-timers get too old/busy to bother with it, and the hipsters take over. A prime example of this is Gnome3. When Linus and his lieutenants retire, Linux is really going to go downhill fast.

justin66 11y ago
An interesting sentiment, but Linus and his lieutenants were never very responsible for graphics. I wonder what will happen when those guys retire but it might end up being positive. Linus and his lieutenants have been spazzy about filesystem advancements, a kernel debugger, and in general a bunch of other stuff. Or maybe everyone will just use BSD.
- Grishnakh 11y ago
  There's nothing stopping anyone from forking the Linux kernel and adding their own advanced features if they think they're so valuable. Almost no one even uses a vanilla Linus kernel; distros all have their own custom kernels. So the fact that no one's bothered making a big competitor to Linus's kernel (which of course would mostly be a drop-in replacement) means that either no one thinks these things are useful, or no one's really competent enough to do it (and willing to spend the time/effort). As for filesystem advancements, they're working on btrfs; what more do you want?
  - justin66 11y ago
    > they're working on btrfs; what more do you want? Ha ha ha etc.
    - Grishnakh 11y ago
      Wow, that's an intelligent answer.
      - justin66 11y ago
        I actually don't know if you were joking or not, but "what more do you want?" sounds somewhat sarcastic to me. In any case, btrfs is a mysteriously sad, pathetic response to ZFS. It's worth a chuckle regardless. The short answer to the "what more do you want?" question is that I'd like developers to come to their senses and adopt FreeBSD. Since that's not going to happen... I don't know, a puppy? Or core linux devs acting with more taste. I'll be fine if I don't get either.
        Grishnakh 11y ago
        btrfs has better and more features than ZFS; it's just not as mature yet. And ZFS can't be used in the Linux kernel because its license is incompatible. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you complain to the owners of ZFS. What's so great about FreeBSD? I see BSD people say that all the time, but you never see much actual usage of BSD anywhere. Instead of almost all developers being wrong, maybe you're the one who's wrong. Acting with taste? That's completely irrelevant to technical issues.
        justin66 11y ago
        > Instead of almost all developers being wrong, maybe you're the one who's wrong. It's so hard to tell how much of what you're saying is meant to be taken seriously or responded to. Regarding BSD, it's worth spelunking through the comments here with a search and then trying it for yourself. These forums run on FreeBSD, I'm not sure if you knew that.

justin66 11y ago

An interesting sentiment, but Linus and his lieutenants were never very responsible for graphics. I wonder what will happen when those guys retire but it might end up being positive. Linus and his lieutenants have been spazzy about filesystem advancements, a kernel debugger, and in general a bunch of other stuff. Or maybe everyone will just use BSD.

Grishnakh 11y ago
There's nothing stopping anyone from forking the Linux kernel and adding their own advanced features if they think they're so valuable. Almost no one even uses a vanilla Linus kernel; distros all have their own custom kernels. So the fact that no one's bothered making a big competitor to Linus's kernel (which of course would mostly be a drop-in replacement) means that either no one thinks these things are useful, or no one's really competent enough to do it (and willing to spend the time/effort). As for filesystem advancements, they're working on btrfs; what more do you want?
- justin66 11y ago
  > they're working on btrfs; what more do you want? Ha ha ha etc.
  - Grishnakh 11y ago
    Wow, that's an intelligent answer.
    - justin66 11y ago
      I actually don't know if you were joking or not, but "what more do you want?" sounds somewhat sarcastic to me. In any case, btrfs is a mysteriously sad, pathetic response to ZFS. It's worth a chuckle regardless. The short answer to the "what more do you want?" question is that I'd like developers to come to their senses and adopt FreeBSD. Since that's not going to happen... I don't know, a puppy? Or core linux devs acting with more taste. I'll be fine if I don't get either.
      - Grishnakh 11y ago
        btrfs has better and more features than ZFS; it's just not as mature yet. And ZFS can't be used in the Linux kernel because its license is incompatible. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you complain to the owners of ZFS. What's so great about FreeBSD? I see BSD people say that all the time, but you never see much actual usage of BSD anywhere. Instead of almost all developers being wrong, maybe you're the one who's wrong. Acting with taste? That's completely irrelevant to technical issues.
        justin66 11y ago
        > Instead of almost all developers being wrong, maybe you're the one who's wrong. It's so hard to tell how much of what you're saying is meant to be taken seriously or responded to. Regarding BSD, it's worth spelunking through the comments here with a search and then trying it for yourself. These forums run on FreeBSD, I'm not sure if you knew that.