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Whoa. I met Noah at a very small game dev conference last May. I had no idea who he was until this moment, nor was I aware that anyone else did, but I could be

by jere 11y ago

Whoa. I met Noah at a very small game dev conference last May. I had no idea who he was until this moment, nor was I aware that anyone else did, but I could be wrong. It's interesting to think how that interaction would have changed, probably for the worse, if I had known more about him beforehand.

lovemenot 11y ago
>> I had no idea who he was until this moment The wording of this comment seems to be, in a very small way, symptomatic of the larger problem that Noah sometimes has with people he meets or knows well. To illustrate my point, here's another way to write the same thing: >> I had no idea that he was Aaron's brother until this moment The original wording seems to conflate the identity of Noah's brother with his own.
- irishcoffee 11y ago
  Hmm, to me it reads as: Having never seen and committed to memory the face of Aaron, I did not consider his brother as anything other than an individual whom I had interacted with for the first time. Your comment (to me at least) seems to suggest Noah wanted everyone to associate Noah with Aaron, and in the same moment wanted to be unhappy by said association, which doesn't seem like a fair thing to say about Noah.
  - lovemenot 11y ago
    >> ... I did not consider his brother as anything other than an individual whom I had interacted with for the first time... Agreed. And to continue his/her presumed train of thought, in my own words: " Whoah! ... but now I realise that the guy I met was really somebody. He was Aaron's brother." >> Your comment (to me at least) seems to suggest Noah wanted everyone to associate Noah with Aaron ... I have no idea how you arrived at this interpretation of my comment. Though I can agree that if I had been making such a suggestion it would have been unfair to Noah. Anyway, I don't believe it is worth pursuing this further. We have at least demonstrated that, in all good faith, it is easy to interpret the same thing in different ways.
- jere 11y ago
  Sure, that wording would be better. I wasn't sure exactly how to say it. I think we tend to do that though for better or worse: we identify new people by one or two odd facts we know about them. And that alters how we communicate with them. In another instance at that conference, I asked the guy next to me who he was and he told me his name. He then told me he wrote a series of articles (which I had known about) and immediately my view shifted: oh that guy. And it completely changed the way I interacted because of course now I felt compelled to talk about his articles rather than something else.
scrollaway 11y ago
Heh, yeah. Met him at Mozfest a few years back. Noticed the last name but figured it was a coincidence, so I didn't ask. When I watched The Internet's Own Boy months later (and by the way, everybody who hasn't watched it really should) I realized he was Aaron's brother. He's really laid back and an overall cool guy to talk to. I'm glad I didn't know - Aaron was a great guy, but being identified as your dead brother's brother must be miserable...

by jere 11y ago

lovemenot 11y ago

>> I had no idea who he was until this moment The wording of this comment seems to be, in a very small way, symptomatic of the larger problem that Noah sometimes has with people he meets or knows well. To illustrate my point, here's another way to write the same thing: >> I had no idea that he was Aaron's brother until this moment The original wording seems to conflate the identity of Noah's brother with his own.

irishcoffee 11y ago
Hmm, to me it reads as: Having never seen and committed to memory the face of Aaron, I did not consider his brother as anything other than an individual whom I had interacted with for the first time. Your comment (to me at least) seems to suggest Noah wanted everyone to associate Noah with Aaron, and in the same moment wanted to be unhappy by said association, which doesn't seem like a fair thing to say about Noah.
- lovemenot 11y ago
  >> ... I did not consider his brother as anything other than an individual whom I had interacted with for the first time... Agreed. And to continue his/her presumed train of thought, in my own words: " Whoah! ... but now I realise that the guy I met was really somebody. He was Aaron's brother." >> Your comment (to me at least) seems to suggest Noah wanted everyone to associate Noah with Aaron ... I have no idea how you arrived at this interpretation of my comment. Though I can agree that if I had been making such a suggestion it would have been unfair to Noah. Anyway, I don't believe it is worth pursuing this further. We have at least demonstrated that, in all good faith, it is easy to interpret the same thing in different ways.
jere 11y ago
Sure, that wording would be better. I wasn't sure exactly how to say it. I think we tend to do that though for better or worse: we identify new people by one or two odd facts we know about them. And that alters how we communicate with them. In another instance at that conference, I asked the guy next to me who he was and he told me his name. He then told me he wrote a series of articles (which I had known about) and immediately my view shifted: oh that guy. And it completely changed the way I interacted because of course now I felt compelled to talk about his articles rather than something else.

scrollaway 11y ago

Heh, yeah. Met him at Mozfest a few years back. Noticed the last name but figured it was a coincidence, so I didn't ask. When I watched The Internet's Own Boy months later (and by the way, everybody who hasn't watched it really should) I realized he was Aaron's brother. He's really laid back and an overall cool guy to talk to. I'm glad I didn't know - Aaron was a great guy, but being identified as your dead brother's brother must be miserable...