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Show HN: I'm a professor who has developed an interactive Powerpoint alternative
- santaclaus 11y agoHow well is video handled?
- twoslide 11y agoTry it and tell me (please)! You can embed youtube and vimeo very easily. I'm planning to use an API like oembed (http://oembed.com/ http://oembed.com/) to handle a greater variety of media soon. You can also control your slides using a tablet, which can be pretty slick.
- ramy_d 11y agoAre slides built using a WYSIWYG editor?
- twoslide 11y agoYes, please try it out! I'm also planning to add a "rapid compose" version using markdown (for some people point and click is slower than typing).
- widforss 11y agoI seriously was contemplating a business idea on my way home from work today that was based on making polling via sms easy.
- kevinsundar 11y agoCheck out https://www.polleverywhere.com/ https://www.polleverywhere.com/
- widforss 11y agoHaha, cool. I think I could compete with that, as a hobbyist business for non-profits in my home market at least.
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- twoslide 11y agoWhile others have rightly pointed out pollanywhere, I'm looking to go beyond just polls. I have text based discussions and will be adding audience annotations (useful for small meetings, brainstorming, etc) in the near future.
- widforss 11y agoNot really related, but I had another idea (more of an art project) about installing a projector in a public place or maybe on a uni campus that you could text to and have it project your message. Some kind of experiment of uncensored amplification of speech.
- softawre 11y agoThey do this at a lot of conferences, at least using Twitter instead of SMS.
- twoslide 11y agoFor those interested in more, please also check out the demo video: https://youtu.be/Sc6cIAJBkmU https://youtu.be/Sc6cIAJBkmU
- castratikron 11y agoOne of my college physics professors had a more low-tech solution: hand everyone a set of cards labeled A, B, and C and have everyone answer powerpoint questions that way.
- shas3 11y agoThe guru of visualization and Powerpoint critic, Edward Tufte recommends projected presentations (not necessarily using ppt) be accompanied with well designed 4-5 page handouts.
- ghaff 11y agoPresentations should be presentations and handouts should be handouts is a really nice idea for many circumstances. And utterly impractical for many of those circumstances. Even getting decent speaker notes into a presentation is often tough to get people to do. (One of) the problems is that if you're asking me to do a presentation, you're now also asking me to create a second document. It's not actually all that difficult (and I've done it) but it does take an extra piece of work--which might take a day or two--which goes beyond the initial scope.
- kevhito 11y agoVisiting MSR/Bangalore I was shown a neat demo using very simple QRcode-like paper and image recognition. Basically, each student had a paper they could hold up. On the front was a simple QR-code (facing the prof and camera). On the back on the edges were 4 possible answers, something like A/1/YES, B/2/NO, C/3/MAYBE, D/4/DONT-KNOW. The student would rotate the paper so their chosen answer was on top, then hold it up. A camera in the front of the room would detect in realtime and display the results. They even had an augmented reality smartphone app that would cover/highlight the students and their responses. Oh, and the QR codes were per student, so answers could be tracked.
- whorleater 11y agoThis sounds like so much of a physical struggle that doesn't scale very well.
- kevhito 11y agoI have taught for years using UW's Classroom Presenter software, hacked up to be more responsive and usable with a tablet and pen. So I'm fully on board with the concept. But frankly, the execution seems lacking. The qrcode/sms polling is fine, if you care about that sort of thing, but there are many similar and better solutions [1] out there. You can already mirror and do remote displays easily even with stock powerpoint/ooffice/keynote. The one feature this and UW CP really bring is the annotation. In UW CP, especially my hacked version, the annotation tools are very good quality. You can use an active pen (e.g. wacomm digitizer on a Lenovo laptop/tablet) for accurate writing and drawing, and it has very low latency response, pressure sensitive line width, etc. In software you can zoom slides, delete/move annotations, change colors and pen types via a tablet-friendly palette. You can save your annotations and import them back into ppt as "ink" objects, and vice versa. I don't see any of that in the poster's demo. The drawing is clunky, unresponsive, and looks bad. Can you imagine trying to write a note on a slide with that system? Having worked on the guts of UW CP, I know that one of the hardest things was export/import from powerpoint. It is very hard to get right, especially with build animations. Font size 24 doesn't export correctly in many cases. Margins and objects shift and move slightly. Exporting can be very slow -- many seconds per slide, depending on complexity. Parsing the actual pptx files and replicating the actual look without using powerpoint APIs is essentially impossible.
- twoslide 11y agoThanks for the feedback (ouch!). I agree that the app is not-suitable for fine-grained drawing, and for target users specialised hardware won't work. I'm curious about the link referenced in [1] - there is polling software out there (e.g PollAnywhere), but it is limited to polls. I think the text responses and future developments (image uploads, audience-designed slides) could provide better interactivity. Yes, powerpoint import/export sucks. Import is functional in terms of pictures and text, using python-pptx. Export is probably a longer-term goal and not a high-priority (if people want to make pptx, powerpoint is always going to be the best option).
- aroch 11y agoThere's TurningPoint as well, and it integrates with the office suite + the Student-Teacher backend (D2L, blackboard, etc): https://www.turningtechnologies.com/higher-education https://www.turningtechnologies.com/higher-education
- LargeCompanies 11y agoNice job, yet I'm curious how many Interactive Powerpoint apps are out there now? Slides.com offers the ability to use your phone as a remote and I'm guessing there's a few others out there?
- ballsohardy 11y agosolid, reminds me of https://github.com/FormidableLabs/spectacle https://github.com/FormidableLabs/spectacle
- haberdasher 11y agoIn a similar vein: https://presentio.us https://presentio.us Disclosure: I'm the developer of this.
- martin-adams 11y agoI briefly checked out the "See Presentious in action" section. I would have preferred to see some more engaging sample presentations. In fact, those presentations seem to exhibit most of the reasons why Powerpoint slides considered bad. Bad presentation traits include: - Walls of text or bullet points - Cliché stock imagery - Reading exactly what is on the slide - Lack of emotive connections with the imagery - Dry and monotone voice - Each slide should really convey one key point One story I heard from an audiobook was the CEO of a company attending a nervous staff member's presentation. The CEO sat in front of the screen and faced the presenter, not looking at the slides. Appearing that this may be a disaster, the CEO later expressed, if there's something important to be said, the presenter would say it, not hide it in the slides.
- haberdasher 11y agoI can't claim that having the ability to record your presentation will instantly cure all of the ills common to bad presentations. Our hypothesis is that if you know what you're saying is captured along with your slides, you'll put less information in the slides. That should remedy the walls of text and bullet points. The same goes for reading the slide - if it's not there, you won't do it. Stock Imagery, Dry and monotone voices, Lack of emotive connections with the imagery --- If you know of an algorithm to correct this stuff, holler at me: george@presentio.us
- contangoandcash 11y agowhy wouldnt you just use reveal js?
- St_Alfonzo 11y agoMy thoughts exactly. RevealJS is missing some of the features that 2sli.de is advertising, but the foundation (e.g. socket.io, multiplex-plugin) to develop these plugins for revealjs is already there.
- twoslide 11y agoI think I would highlight the following features: * Interactions: last time I checked RevealJS does not offer any kind of interactions. It tends to be hosted as static HTML files, so you need some kind of logic to process interactions * Control: Although I believe slides.com allows phone as remote, a user-hosted reveal JS presentation would not. * Ease of use - many users don't want to edit HTML files. Even I didn't want to keep editing HTML files. However, I agree that RevealJS is great and I did use it in my lectures after I gave up powerpoint!
- slavik81 11y agoI realize that you're trying to show off the features of your software, but overuse of slide animations is a really bad look. In addition to explicitly communicating the features of your product, your example slides should inherently make me think 'I wish my presentations were like that'.
- twoslide 11y agoThanks, that is a good point. The demo presentation is actually a bit dated and could use updating. The demo video is actually better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXthp3vcJs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXthp3vcJs One less-visible feature of the site is that users can edit the theme, including the CSS, and save as a new theme (either public or private). I'd love to attract some good designers who might make themes. My own design skills are limited and ultimately designers are going to make better looking slides.
- IMTDb 11y agoOne of my friends is the creator of Wooclap : https://www.wooclap.com/ https://www.wooclap.com/ It's quite cool to compare how a similar idea (engage your audience by text/web) lead to different execution. Congratulations on your product :) What is the use of the QR Code displayed on the demo slides ?
- twoslide 11y agoThanks, wooclap looks really good and possibly more simple. Will check it out in more detail! The QR code leads to the web-response (e.g. it encodes the URL g.2sli.de) I found some audience members had trouble with the short domain, they would write things like g.2sli.de.com or g.www.2Sli.de - the QR code made it easier for some to respond! Taking a picture of the QR code with the default android camera offers an option to open the link.
- conception 11y agoI'll toss out another piece of software - http://www.socrative.com/ http://www.socrative.com/ Does similar stuff as noted in all these comments.
- prtkgpt 11y agopretty cool!
- m3andros 11y agoIn terms of building a title and effective presentations, better than PowerPoint or Keynote combined, I use LectoraOnline.com. It has everything I need: QR code generator, embedding of video, HTML export, SCORM compliant, editable themes, and Responsive presentations. That's a short list, as there's more, but it's an incredible app. It's close relative, I'd venture to guess, is Captivate or maybe even Storyline. Great job on this cool concept! I will definitely check it out. Thank you!
- twoslide 11y agoThanks, I'll check out LectoraOnline too to see what I can learn.
- BHSPitMonkey 11y agoThe interactive polling stuff is neat, though it seems like it would occupy a lot more time in a presentation than the old-fashioned "show of hands" it's replacing (given the time an audience would need to pull out their phones and try to scan the QR / type the URL / send the SMS). The on-device view of the current and upcoming slides (as well as speaker notes, and maybe even drawing) are also built into the Google Slides app's UI when you are casting to a Chromecast.
- brianpgordon 11y agoYou could have all of the students scan the QR code or enter some text at the beginning of the lecture and keep a session running so that the voting controls work throughout the lecture.
- eecks 11y ago> experimental > may be bugs Ah yes.. let me give a presentation with this software.
- sova 11y agoyou're the man
- such_a_casual 11y agoWhy is a sign up required to use this?
- twoslide 11y agoWell, the presentation is private by default. It would be hard to associate that data with you without a sign-up (I guess unique URLS would be an option). I also made it for myself to use in the first instance, and having some kind of login worked well for me! The user authentication uses a fairly mature package that follows good practices (e.g. passwords not stored in clear text).
- potatote 11y agoJust a side question because you mentioned being a professor: is this work/project related to academic research (in other words, do you plan to publish about your usability findings)? Or is this a product that will become more feature-full over time? The tool looks neat and I like the preview feature that can only be seen on the smart devices. I'll certainly use this for my next presentation. Thank you! :)
- gravypod 11y agoOne of the biggest features of PowerPoint is that it runs offline. This is very important for many reasons. It's the Doctor Sues of business tools. You can use it on a boat, with a goat, in the rain, on a train, and you can use it ANYWHERE. If you can match that feature, than this might be worth another look. Otherwise, you have effectively created another Prezi.
- twoslide 11y agoYou can run it offline two ways: * Choose the "offline download" option in the main menu. In your browser do some version of "Save" with the type "Webpage Complete." This saves as a webpage with all associated CSS and JS. You can run it anywhere. If you have an internet connection, you will receive interaction data (e.g. poll responses) * Download a full-slide PDF (less desirable, but more familiar) These features need to be better documented, I'll try to work on a blog entry on this! It is NOT the same as Prezi as the emphasis is on interaction. Last time I checked, Prezi (and Powerpoint) presentations are deterministic: from the minute you hit run there's not much you or the audience can do to change the slides. The goal is to change that as much as possible: if you're going to take the audience as serious participants in your presentation, they need to be able to influence it's outcome. The presentation should be less about information transfer, more about brainstorming or co-creation. I have a long way to go there technically, but that's my thinking!
- saurik 11y ago> Last time I checked, Prezi (and Powerpoint) presentations are deterministic: from the minute you hit run there's not much you or the audience can do to change the slides. I started using Prezi since soon after it came out, and this was never the case. You can build guided paths, though even that isn't quite like saying "run", but what was powerful with Prezi was that if you use it for content where it really makes sense, content that is inherently spatial (which isn't actually most of the content I give in talks, so I haven't really used it much over the years), you can rapidly move around the content, you can edit it if you want (as the tool that you use to present is the editor), and effectively decided how the presentation will play out as you give the talk. In this article, the talk I'm giving is done with Prezi, and while I've given this talk many times, I've never twice did I do the talk in the same order, and often decide how to order the content based on the questions and feedback I get from the audience, and no one is any the wiser as Prezi is actually really good at that. http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/13/360idev-saurik-on-the-mobile-application-market/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/13/360idev-saurik-on-the-mob...
- phillc73 11y agoI'd like to mention the tool I use: Slidify[1,2] Basically HTML5 slides from R Markdown. Interactivity also available. [3,4] Perhaps not was WYSIWYG as 2sli.de, which looks quite nice, but Slidify is great if you know R and want to include code snippets too. [1] http://slidify.github.io/ http://slidify.github.io/ [2] http://slidify.org/samples/intro/#1 http://slidify.org/samples/intro/#1 [3] https://github.com/slidify/interactive https://github.com/slidify/interactive [4] http://slidify.github.io/dcmeetup/demos/interactive/ http://slidify.github.io/dcmeetup/demos/interactive/
- aarthielizabeth 11y agoThe presentation industry was stagnant for almost two decades until Prezi and a bunch of new software brought some life in to it. Thankfully the focus has slowly shifted from the “software” to the “presenter and the audience”. There are a few exciting tools in the market that focus on audience engagement and interaction. ShowTime from Zoho is one such product. It’s a cloud based service that brings interactivity into presentations by connecting the presenter to the audience and is quite popular in the market currently. It works well with PowerPoint too. It’s a product that will suit any type of presentation including classroom set up where presenters/lecturers want students to interact with them during a lecture. Students can ask questions privately, rate slides, share feedback etc, using their smartphone or their laptop. Plus, advanced analytics will tell how well their session fared. I would suggest you a look at it if you have plans to refine your app. Here are two other tools in the same space: Presentain and SlideKlowd (both very effective for live presentations). Hope this helps. All the best. :)
- Tepix 11y agoKeynote was released in 2003, do you consider it being part of the stagnation of the presentation industry?
- gmmeyer 11y agoThere are some things that can be done better. There are some things that can be improved. This isn't a perfect product. But it's one that I want! Good job! Other people covered most of the issues well enough, I think. One key thing that I think you should do is make the cursor change in the appropriate ways when hovering over certain things. It's not a terribly hard css change and I think it would make the app look a lot more polished.
- twoslide 11y agoThanks, yes that would be appropriate (e.g. a movable object should have a movable cursor). I'll check through the app for this, although any specifics are much appreciated. I'd be grateful for feedback on your experience, my email is on the "About" page.
- t0rb3n 11y agoI'm not 100% sure, but since you're using a de domain, you probably have to include legal information in your about page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressum
- Tepix 11y agoThe requirement is for German websites. German websites are defined as being published by individuals or organisations that are based in Germany, so an Impressum is required regardless of whether a site is in the .de domain.
- hkeide 11y agoThis has an impressive feature set for such a young product. I'm a cofounder of https://www.swipe.to/ https://www.swipe.to/ and we support some similar things: - Markdown slides - Embedding YouTube and Vimeo videos - Control presentation on your phone by swiping - Privacy by default - Live collaboration
- 6stringmerc 11y agoSomewhat tongue-in-cheek but based in reality question: Before your software embeds the YouTube or Vimeo videos, it opens up an email or contact system by which the presentation author must contact and get approval from the content owner before being embedded, right?
- neltnerb 11y agoA few little thoughts: I love that your graphics are decently large by default and the text is reasonably sized. Biggest complaint with PowerPoint and Excel for me is that the default settings make no sense and are next to illegible when projected. That said, this seems like an application ripe for the use of the figure style guides from long ago, which you may appreciate. This link shows some really clever thoughts on how to present data most legibly, and since you're dynamically generating a lot of it this seems ripe for implementation. http://www.juretriglav.si/standards-for-graphic-presentation/ http://www.juretriglav.si/standards-for-graphic-presentation... I do think the typography needs some work, I'm personally having a rather hard time tracking a line of text due to weight/line spacing or something. Or maybe there's just too much text on the slides in the demo? But I'm not a typographer so I'll leave that to other people to comment on more productively.