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Cryptostorm are a decent VPN as they claim no logs are kept, however even if this is not accurate, their payment/token system allows you to access the service w

Cryptostorm are a decent VPN as they claim no logs are kept, however even if this is not accurate, their payment/token system allows you to access the service without linking it to you via a payment mechanism. To further cloud things you can pay with Bitcoin.

chinathrow 11y ago
Aren't such claims moot without the ability to verify this?
- aioprisan 11y ago
  How do you propose to be allowed to verify that no logs are being kept?
  - michaelt 11y ago
    It's impossible to do that - hence the article above saying you can't trust any VPN service.
sarciszewski 11y ago
Yes, Cryptostorm is good for identity compartmentalization, and it's run by people who are passionate about privacy. That still doesn't mean their servers can't be compromised, or they can't suddenly decide to log everything one day. Their passion might even make them a target. (I was able to find some information leaks in their forums, which I reported responsibly, but a malicious actor could have used to exploit an outdated module.) Despite my less-than-chilly feelings about the service operator, I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone else trust them. An SSH tunnel over Tor (or even better, something like PORTAL) to protect against malicious exit nodes, where the endpoint is a VPS you rent with bitcoin not connected to your real identity, is preferable.
valarauca1 11y ago
Cryptostorm (I love these guys) refuse to answer how they are in legal compliance with Canadian laws, which require VPN's to keep logs (they're Canadian fyi). Best case scenario: They're an illegal operation who's defying local laws. Worse case scenario: We're being lied too.
- CptThrowawy 11y ago
  Their alleged owner Douglas Spink and his inability to stay out of jail for 'Zoophilia brothel offences' is the icing on the Cryptostorm cake.
ryanlol 11y ago
But the people that run cryptostorm aren't very competent, see: https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=6792# https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=6792# Their twitter feed is also a goldmine.
esMazer 11y ago
even if we pay with Bitcoin, if someone gets access to their servers (somehow) they can find out your real IP and find you.

chinathrow 11y ago

Aren't such claims moot without the ability to verify this?

aioprisan 11y ago
How do you propose to be allowed to verify that no logs are being kept?
- michaelt 11y ago
  It's impossible to do that - hence the article above saying you can't trust any VPN service.

sarciszewski 11y ago

Yes, Cryptostorm is good for identity compartmentalization, and it's run by people who are passionate about privacy. That still doesn't mean their servers can't be compromised, or they can't suddenly decide to log everything one day. Their passion might even make them a target. (I was able to find some information leaks in their forums, which I reported responsibly, but a malicious actor could have used to exploit an outdated module.) Despite my less-than-chilly feelings about the service operator, I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone else trust them. An SSH tunnel over Tor (or even better, something like PORTAL) to protect against malicious exit nodes, where the endpoint is a VPS you rent with bitcoin not connected to your real identity, is preferable.

valarauca1 11y ago

Cryptostorm (I love these guys) refuse to answer how they are in legal compliance with Canadian laws, which require VPN's to keep logs (they're Canadian fyi). Best case scenario: They're an illegal operation who's defying local laws. Worse case scenario: We're being lied too.

CptThrowawy 11y ago
Their alleged owner Douglas Spink and his inability to stay out of jail for 'Zoophilia brothel offences' is the icing on the Cryptostorm cake.

ryanlol 11y ago

But the people that run cryptostorm aren't very competent, see: https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=6792# https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=6792# Their twitter feed is also a goldmine.

esMazer 11y ago

even if we pay with Bitcoin, if someone gets access to their servers (somehow) they can find out your real IP and find you.